Which was tougher for you?

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:05 pm

MWR wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
MWR wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:uh not really either, ive always had awesome timing when i play, even when i started, and the stretches i got pretty fast, i have big hands and could stretch them, so both came pretty easy.
Wow so you were just a pefect player from the moment you picked the instrument up?
You won't get very far with that attitude.
i never said i was perfect, when i started playing guitar i had gotten off a year of band so i knew stuff, and had rythm and timing down... and im sorry if being in band helped me stretch my fingers. and i have big hands, cant help that.

dont be a dick about stuff, if you dont know the rest.
I know arrogance when I see it and I don't tolerate it...sorry.

its not arrogance... i know im not the best guitarist here, im not the best guitarist in my group of friends... all im saying is this guy asked 2 qustions, if timing or the strain of hands was harder. neither were hard as ive said i had been in band a year, first chair all year, so i had good timing, i started guitar a week after i quit band (my teacher was a drunk pedophile and ultimatly the inbodiment of satan) so my timing was still good, and i played saxaphone, that got me to stretch my fingers, and i think we all know guitar is like a bike, you dont really forget just comes back to you in peicies... so i could stretch my big hands good, and had good timing... i dont see that as arrogance, i have other problems, i cant sing and play very well, i cant sing great even when i dont play, i dont use my 4th finger enough... and the list goes on, i dont see saying that since 2 aspects of guitar came easily to me as arrogance.

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:22 pm

Ok don't get your panties in a ruffle.

I understand the whole story now.

something cool · Unread post by **something cool** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:01 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
something cool wrote:Oddly enough, for me I had trouble with that strange timing thing, until I started singing with it and it naturally seemed to come together. I think it was the inflections that helped. I do that early now with other songs, even if I don't really know how to play it. Seems to speed things up a bit in learning, and also helps you avoid mistakes in your timing that you later have to relearn. That really sucks. Doing that with the Stone right now. Uhg...
I dont find the stone to be an odd timing. its in 12 which is a basic rock time. That and 4. If your having trouble with it, I suggest breaking it into 3. Makes things abit more simple.

Did you read my post correctly? We were talking about Crash. Maybe I should have started a new paragraph when I said I was relearning the Stone because I was playing it screwed up. What does 12, 4 and 3 mean?

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:45 pm

something cool wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
something cool wrote:Oddly enough, for me I had trouble with that strange timing thing, until I started singing with it and it naturally seemed to come together. I think it was the inflections that helped. I do that early now with other songs, even if I don't really know how to play it. Seems to speed things up a bit in learning, and also helps you avoid mistakes in your timing that you later have to relearn. That really sucks. Doing that with the Stone right now. Uhg...
I dont find the stone to be an odd timing. its in 12 which is a basic rock time. That and 4. If your having trouble with it, I suggest breaking it into 3. Makes things abit more simple.
Did you read my post correctly? We were talking about Crash. Maybe I should have started a new paragraph when I said I was relearning the Stone because I was playing it screwed up. What does 12, 4 and 3 mean?

oh, my bad. They are time signatures. 12/8, 4/4, and 3/4. If you dont understand what I mean, I suggest you learn them.

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:04 pm

Isn't the stone in 6/8?

something cool · Unread post by **something cool** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:09 pm

MWR wrote:Isn't the stone in 6/8?

Yes...that's what I thought. The 12 thing kinda threw me for a loop.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:40 pm

something cool wrote:
MWR wrote:Isn't the stone in 6/8?
Yes...that's what I thought. The 12 thing kinda threw me for a loop.

The intro is a 6 beat riff but the verse takes all 12 beats to to land back on the one. These are fractions (sort of) so they can be simplified like that. The chords in the chorus also take all 12 beats to land back on the one.

something cool · Unread post by **something cool** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:55 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
something cool wrote:
MWR wrote:Isn't the stone in 6/8?
Yes...that's what I thought. The 12 thing kinda threw me for a loop.
The intro is a 6 beat riff but the verse takes all 12 beats to to land back on the one. These are fractions (sort of) so they can be simplified like that. The chords in the chorus also take all 12 beats to land back on the one.

Alright man...must be a band camp thing. :wink:

I follow you, and thanks.

I just got the intro down a while ago, so I'm back in good shape.

Now on to the rest.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:08 pm

something cool wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
something cool wrote:
MWR wrote:Isn't the stone in 6/8?
Yes...that's what I thought. The 12 thing kinda threw me for a loop.
The intro is a 6 beat riff but the verse takes all 12 beats to to land back on the one. These are fractions (sort of) so they can be simplified like that. The chords in the chorus also take all 12 beats to land back on the one.
Alright man...must be a band camp thing.
I follow you, and thanks.

I just got the intro down a while ago, so I'm back in good shape.

Now on to the rest.

its more of a musician thing. Im happy to say Ive never been to a band camp

Swe dmbfan · Unread post by **Swe dmbfan** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:10 pm

timing and crazy strum patterns!

but i cant mute..

StarSlight · Unread post by **StarSlight** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:28 am

Beauford33 wrote:
something cool wrote:
MWR wrote:Isn't the stone in 6/8?
Yes...that's what I thought. The 12 thing kinda threw me for a loop.
The intro is a 6 beat riff but the verse takes all 12 beats to to land back on the one. These are fractions (sort of) so they can be simplified like that. The chords in the chorus also take all 12 beats to land back on the one.

Err..?

Edit: Yeah, timing. I've got huge hands, so stretching is easy enough.
I don't really understand time signatures or any of that stuff, so it's a good thing everything I play I've already heard.

json22 · Unread post by **json22** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:33 pm

I grew up playing guitar in church(the holy rolling type church) I can not tell you a damn thing about timing. I think that some people just have a natural ear for playin( not saying I am one of those). I know some player who were in band camp shit and took lessons, and they cant play or pick up the song near as quickly.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:15 pm

StarSlight wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
something cool wrote:
MWR wrote:Isn't the stone in 6/8?
Yes...that's what I thought. The 12 thing kinda threw me for a loop.
The intro is a 6 beat riff but the verse takes all 12 beats to to land back on the one. These are fractions (sort of) so they can be simplified like that. The chords in the chorus also take all 12 beats to land back on the one.
Err..?

Edit: Yeah, timing. I've got huge hands, so stretching is easy enough.
I don't really understand time signatures or any of that stuff, so it's a good thing everything I play I've already heard.

Okay, its takes six beats out of the 12 for the intro riff to start over again. The verse and Chorus take the full 12 beats to start over again. So, unless you want it to be a two bar phrase, you count that in 12.

dmb_tatertot · Unread post by **dmb_tatertot** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:25 pm

eventually you will be able to get all the stretches... you can train your hands. timing and rhythem are a whole other issue.

lieinourgraves · Unread post by **lieinourgraves** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:31 pm

i got long ass fingers so after a couple of months strecthing was easy it sucks i have no rhmythn though

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