want a medal?dustin wrote:i'm a biger fan of ben harper then i am of anyone else and it has nothing to do with dmb
mayer or harper
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I dont think anybody here is claiming that Harper is a musical god. At least I'm not. Sure, I think he's good...especially compared to Mayer and his dripping cheese. Which also happens to be the topic of the thread.gcom007 wrote:it's perfectly founded, the only thing that's truly unfounded here is the perception of reality in DMB-fandom world...fatjack wrote:elliot's point isn't all that unfounded. i had never heard of harper until i got on these boards
And whats all this dmb fan nonesense youre talking about? At least in my case, I'm hardly a dmb fan anymore. I havent purchased a dmb album since 1998. Anyway, I dont see anything wrong with not giving two shits about fancy guitar work over lyrics, which is what I think this thread boils down to. You guys have your preferences, and others have theirs. Nobody is unfounded...you may think their tastes suck, but thats ok. If you really think anyone is unfounded here, then youre just one of those music snobs. Which I'm sure youre ok with, cause snobs usually are. And if that is the case, you're living a lie in defending Mayer so diligently. No self-respecting music snob would like him anyway.

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i never saw it as guitar fanciness vs. lyrics. i listened to harper not really knowing what to expect. no, his guitar work wasn't brilliant, but thats not why i didn't care for the songs i listened to. i just thought they were boring, they were repetitive and just got dull about halfway through. i dont usually analyze lyrics a lot, but on songs like i'll rise up and please bleed, he just ended up repeating the same line or theme over and over. that gets boring real quick, especially if the guitar work is just as repetitive.mbgreen wrote:I dont think anybody here is claiming that Harper is a musical god. At least I'm not. Sure, I think he's good...especially compared to Mayer and his dripping cheese. Which also happens to be the topic of the thread.gcom007 wrote:it's perfectly founded, the only thing that's truly unfounded here is the perception of reality in DMB-fandom world...fatjack wrote:elliot's point isn't all that unfounded. i had never heard of harper until i got on these boards
And whats all this dmb fan nonesense youre talking about? At least in my case, I'm hardly a dmb fan anymore. I havent purchased a dmb album since 1998. Anyway, I dont see anything wrong with not giving two shits about fancy guitar work over lyrics, which is what I think this thread boils down to. You guys have your preferences, and others have theirs. Nobody is unfounded...you may think their tastes suck, but thats ok. If you really think anyone is unfounded here, then youre just one of those music snobs. Which I'm sure youre ok with, cause snobs usually are. And if that is the case, you're living a lie in defending Mayer so diligently. No self-respecting music snob would like him anyway.
how a person perceives music is up to them. i didn't necessarily dislike harper, i just will probably never listen to his songs again. i respect him though, and see why some people might like him. his music just doesn't spark any interest in me. its that simple. i listened, and i didn't go for it; it happens
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I know...that post wasnt directed so much at you as it was Elliot. I agree...his stuff can get repetitive. I think he's a lot more dynamic on the electric (and personally I wouldn't have sent you the songs the others have been sending you.)fatjack wrote:i never saw it as guitar fanciness vs. lyrics. i listened to harper not really knowing what to expect. no, his guitar work wasn't brilliant, but thats not why i didn't care for the songs i listened to. i just thought they were boring, they were repetitive and just got dull about halfway through. i dont usually analyze lyrics a lot, but on songs like i'll rise up and please bleed, he just ended up repeating the same line or theme over and over. that gets boring real quick, especially if the guitar work is just as repetitive.mbgreen wrote:I dont think anybody here is claiming that Harper is a musical god. At least I'm not. Sure, I think he's good...especially compared to Mayer and his dripping cheese. Which also happens to be the topic of the thread.gcom007 wrote:it's perfectly founded, the only thing that's truly unfounded here is the perception of reality in DMB-fandom world...fatjack wrote:elliot's point isn't all that unfounded. i had never heard of harper until i got on these boards
And whats all this dmb fan nonesense youre talking about? At least in my case, I'm hardly a dmb fan anymore. I havent purchased a dmb album since 1998. Anyway, I dont see anything wrong with not giving two shits about fancy guitar work over lyrics, which is what I think this thread boils down to. You guys have your preferences, and others have theirs. Nobody is unfounded...you may think their tastes suck, but thats ok. If you really think anyone is unfounded here, then youre just one of those music snobs. Which I'm sure youre ok with, cause snobs usually are. And if that is the case, you're living a lie in defending Mayer so diligently. No self-respecting music snob would like him anyway.
how a person perceives music is up to them. i didn't necessarily dislike harper, i just will probably never listen to his songs again. i respect him though, and see why some people might like him. his music just doesn't spark any interest in me. its that simple. i listened, and i didn't go for it; it happens
Regardless, your post is the point I'm trying to make. Elliot's condescending attitude is what sparked my reply, I guess.
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gcom007 wrote:it's perfectly founded, the only thing that's truly unfounded here is the perception of reality in DMB-fandom world...fatjack wrote:elliot's point isn't all that unfounded. i had never heard of harper until i got on these boards
You're high....
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if you can show me something that will change, send it to medmplayer wrote:Wow, thats pretty arrogant considering you've only listened to 3 of his songs.....hmmmmmm....fatjack wrote:i agree that harper isn't anything special, he does seem a little over hyped to me
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