13331

[gravedigger]

yeah full barre chords sound gay.

[Davy28]

They're good if you wan't really huge sounding chords with no open strings. They're also helpful for ascending and descending chord progressions.

[gcom007]

yeah full barre chords sound gay.

I wasn't going to be the one to say it b/c people hate me enough here, but yeah...I concur...

[jsgksu]

I like barre chords, but I dont think 133331 can be substitued with 133211 all the time, sometimes the change on the g (or b if youre playing it one string down) can make it sound too different and its noticeable. I also dont understand peoples problem with barre chords, be it their sound or playing them.

[DustyDave]

I wasn't going to be the one to say it b/c people hate me enough here, but yeah...I concur...

We don't hate you Elliot , where did you get that idea from ?

[gravedigger]

I like barre chords, but I dont think 133331 can be substitued with 133211 all the time, sometimes the change on the g (or b if youre playing it one string down) can make it sound too different and its noticeable. I also dont understand peoples problem with barre chords, be it their sound or playing them.

I assume you meant x13331 instead of 133331 and 688766 instead of 133211. anyway, I see what you meant about the difference in the sound. a note played on the b string isn't gonna sound the same as the same note on the G string or A string. and also, an open D string doesn't sound the same as the D note played at the 10th fret on the Low E. But as far as full barre chords go, there is only 2 basic formations the moveable A chord and the moveable E chord. personally the notes and the order of notes in these chords is exessive. I mean it just sounds boring. A lot of times less is more so instead of playing 688766, you take out the 8 on the A string (which just puts the chord overboard) and even leave out the 6 on the high e string since you have the Bb note there twice already, so you're left with 6x876x in which I use my thumb on the low E, ring on 8, middle on 7 and index on 6. and my pinky is free to add suspensions on the higher strings. I think Gcom plays it with his index on the low E, pinky on 8, ring on 7 and middle on 6. this the "proper" way to do this 4 note voicing I believe.

I realize this was quite the exhausting post, but I just wanted to get across that playing full barre chords just doesn't taste as nice. This is why the 5 is often left out in 7th chords because the 5 just takes away the nice taste of the 7. My friend doesn't like Cheese burgers because he claims that the cheese takes away from the flavor of the beef. although I argue with him and say that Cheese enhances the whole flavor of the burger, it's his point that I'm going for. And he just doesn't like Cheese.

wow, I thought I only talked this much when I'm drunk.

[borocks]

whenever i play it the high e gets muted

well, that's how I play it

[grock]

This is why the 5 is often left out in 7th chords because the 5 just takes away the nice taste of the 7.

so true! the 3rd and the 7th tell you alot about a chord. if you wanna get really trippy try making chord substitutions that only have the 3rd and 7th and no root at all! now we're talking insane, cuz after all the 3rd gives the tonality and the 7th (whether dominant of what-have-you) gives the flavor, and that's really all you need. most people will "hear" the root anyway.

i also dislike the "standard" A-shape (446654)and E-shape (244322)barre chords. But i find myself using C-shape (254232), G-shaped(9866(6or9)9), and D shaped (x5578(7or10)) barres all the time when soloing.

of course they all have their place.

[gravedigger]

This is why the 5 is often left out in 7th chords because the 5 just takes away the nice taste of the 7.

so true! the 3rd and the 7th tell you alot about a chord. if you wanna get really trippy try making chord substitutions that only have the 3rd and 7th and no root at all! now we're talking insane, cuz after all the 3rd gives the tonality and the 7th (whether dominant of what-have-you) gives the flavor, and that's really all you need. most people will "hear" the root anyway.

i also dislike the "standard" A-shape (446654)and E-shape (244322)barre chords. But i find myself using C-shape (254232), G-shaped(9866(6or9)9), and D shaped (x5578(7or10)) barres all the time when soloing.

of course they all have their place.

in deed. the G shape, C shape, and D shapes just sound better. yeah leaving out the root is even better some times. adds tension but its still sounds good. and you're right, people will "hear" the root anyway, and then if you do decide to resolve it to the 1 chord with the root it sounds even better because you notice it so much more.

guitar is fun!