I'm losing it (minor chords)

[taparoo]

I thought of nothing normally...

Question: when in the LIOG jam dave and the band changes from the D starting jam....to the Em Starting jam. What does he change there??? Why is it easier to solo for a longer time in such a way?

I can't figure it out.

Fede

That whole section is from the D major scale, all of those 'chords' (not really chords, but more like the root & third, remember chords are made up of three or more notes). Those chords follow the D major scale to a T. It's easy to solo over because of the fact that you can just focus on notes from the D major scale in your solo, and not worry about having to change scales.

[fede]

Yeah i know those aren't proper chords, but the thing is, when it passes to the long jam alternate progression that goes:

Em - Bm - A - D - G

When the jam starts to get fast and intense, why is it possible to solo longer than usual 3 or 4 chord formations... like

A D E for example.

Fede

[taparoo]

Yeah i know those aren't proper chords, but the thing is, when it passes to the long jam alternate progression that goes:

Em - Bm - A - D - G

When the jam starts to get fast and intense, why is it possible to solo longer than usual 3 or 4 chord formations... like

A D E for example.

Fede

Because the progression is longer...? I'm not sure i understand your question

[fede]

Yeah nor do I...I can't explain myself properly in this language with something like that.

Just like I can't understand things as much although I know the words forming the phrases.

Fede

[Guitarlover22]

The guitar progression you listed above (em, bm, etc.) is all in the key of D, which is why soloing will work. It has to do with accidentals (Sharps and flats), and what notes get them. In the key of D, the notes are:
D, E, F#, G, A, B, C#, D

The chord progression you listed uses the same notes, and even though an F# isn't in the chord of em (e, g, b), it's in the key, and can easily be used to pass from one tone to another (e - f# - g, etc.).

If, out of nowhere, a song went from the key of D (see above) to the key of B flat, and you were soloing in D, it wouldn't fit. Here are the notes for a Bflat scale:
B flat, C, D, E flat, F, G, A, B flat.

An F#, or C# has no use in that scale (Unless you start talking about modes).

It all has to do with staying in the key, and using the scale appropriately, which is why, as long as you don't shift key's, you can solo indefinetily (at least until your arm falls off).

Hope this helps.

Jimmy

[fede]

I think i see it know, he stays in the key of D, that I had figured, he just changes the progression to make it sound higher, and / so the solo can use the scale of Em.

Anyway, it's a great soloing base.

Fede

[Nuladion]

I figured I might as well ask it in here. What key would a song with a progression of E, B, C#m be in? And how would you go about figuring that out? I see they all fit in the D scale, so is it in D? Its capoed on 4 so the chords relative the capo are C, G, Am, if that matters at all.

[taparoo]

I figured I might as well ask it in here. What key would a song with a progression of E, B, C#m be in? And how would you go about figuring that out? I see they all fit in the D scale, so is it in D? Its capoed on 4 so the chords relative the capo are C, G, Am, if that matters at all.

Well, assuming E, B, C#m is the chord progression, I'd say you'd be in the key of E major because you are starting on the E, B is the fifth degree of the E major scale (the fifth is a common chord in progressions), and the C#m 'fits' into the chord formula for an E major scale (I ii iii IV V vi viidim).

[Sciaracastro]

I figured I might as well ask it in here. What key would a song with a progression of E, B, C#m be in? And how would you go about figuring that out? I see they all fit in the D scale, so is it in D? Its capoed on 4 so the chords relative the capo are C, G, Am, if that matters at all.

Well, assuming E, B, C#m is the chord progression, I'd say you'd be in the key of E major because you are starting on the E, B is the fifth degree of the E major scale (the fifth is a common chord in progressions), and the C#m 'fits' into the chord formula for an E major scale (I ii iii IV V vi viidim).

since i'm not a "solo" man at all, w/ that progression which other keys can u use to solo?

[taparoo]

I figured I might as well ask it in here. What key would a song with a progression of E, B, C#m be in? And how would you go about figuring that out? I see they all fit in the D scale, so is it in D? Its capoed on 4 so the chords relative the capo are C, G, Am, if that matters at all.

Well, assuming E, B, C#m is the chord progression, I'd say you'd be in the key of E major because you are starting on the E, B is the fifth degree of the E major scale (the fifth is a common chord in progressions), and the C#m 'fits' into the chord formula for an E major scale (I ii iii IV V vi viidim).

since i'm not a "solo" man at all, w/ that progression which other keys can u use to solo?

I'd say E major would sound the best. But you could try using the E major scale for the E chord, the B major scale for the B chord, and the C#m scale for the C#m chord. You could also mess around with the A major scale over the chords, since those chords (E B C#m) 'work' in that scale. Try experimenting with different notes, find out what works and what doesn't.

[Sciaracastro]

I figured I might as well ask it in here. What key would a song with a progression of E, B, C#m be in? And how would you go about figuring that out? I see they all fit in the D scale, so is it in D? Its capoed on 4 so the chords relative the capo are C, G, Am, if that matters at all.

Well, assuming E, B, C#m is the chord progression, I'd say you'd be in the key of E major because you are starting on the E, B is the fifth degree of the E major scale (the fifth is a common chord in progressions), and the C#m 'fits' into the chord formula for an E major scale (I ii iii IV V vi viidim).

since i'm not a "solo" man at all, w/ that progression which other keys can u use to solo?

I'd say E major would sound the best. But you could try using the E major scale for the E chord, the B major scale for the B chord, and the C#m scale for the C#m chord. You could also mess around with the A major scale over the chords, since those chords (E B C#m) 'work' in that scale. Try experimenting with different notes, find out what works and what doesn't.

how does a B chord work in A major scale??
i mean the B NOTE works in it, but so does in D and G scales, doesnt it?

[fede]

The E major scale is the same as the C#m scale. So you could use either pentatonics (which ussually work nicely since they have many of the most important notes of the chord).

If the progression goes:

E B C#m

You can always rest in the E major / C#m scale. And try in some of the B major / G# minor scale when the B is played.

Hope it helps.

Fede

[taparoo]

I figured I might as well ask it in here. What key would a song with a progression of E, B, C#m be in? And how would you go about figuring that out? I see they all fit in the D scale, so is it in D? Its capoed on 4 so the chords relative the capo are C, G, Am, if that matters at all.

Well, assuming E, B, C#m is the chord progression, I'd say you'd be in the key of E major because you are starting on the E, B is the fifth degree of the E major scale (the fifth is a common chord in progressions), and the C#m 'fits' into the chord formula for an E major scale (I ii iii IV V vi viidim).

since i'm not a "solo" man at all, w/ that progression which other keys can u use to solo?

I'd say E major would sound the best. But you could try using the E major scale for the E chord, the B major scale for the B chord, and the C#m scale for the C#m chord. You could also mess around with the A major scale over the chords, since those chords (E B C#m) 'work' in that scale. Try experimenting with different notes, find out what works and what doesn't.

how does a B chord work in A major scale??
i mean the B NOTE works in it, but so does in D and G scales, doesnt it?

you're right about the B, i was thinking of Bm. Bm works in A, not B major. And Bm works in the key of D major, and also in the key of G.

[Sciaracastro]

I figured I might as well ask it in here. What key would a song with a progression of E, B, C#m be in? And how would you go about figuring that out? I see they all fit in the D scale, so is it in D? Its capoed on 4 so the chords relative the capo are C, G, Am, if that matters at all.

Well, assuming E, B, C#m is the chord progression, I'd say you'd be in the key of E major because you are starting on the E, B is the fifth degree of the E major scale (the fifth is a common chord in progressions), and the C#m 'fits' into the chord formula for an E major scale (I ii iii IV V vi viidim).

since i'm not a "solo" man at all, w/ that progression which other keys can u use to solo?

I'd say E major would sound the best. But you could try using the E major scale for the E chord, the B major scale for the B chord, and the C#m scale for the C#m chord. You could also mess around with the A major scale over the chords, since those chords (E B C#m) 'work' in that scale. Try experimenting with different notes, find out what works and what doesn't.

how does a B chord work in A major scale??
i mean the B NOTE works in it, but so does in D and G scales, doesnt it?

you're right about the B, i was thinking of Bm. Bm works in A, not B major. And Bm works in the key of D major, and also in the key of G.

i was thinking...can i solo over that chord progression w/ an A, D or G major scale?

[fede]

E B C#m with A D G.

Mmmm...a tough thing.

I don't have my guitar with me, but you should give it a shot and see how it sounds...mainly it comes from there.

Fede