I'm losing it (minor chords)

[fede]

I've learning about the major scale and how chords are formed in it.

For example, in the key of C it's as follows:

C - Dm - Em- F - G - Am - Bº

Or G:

G - Am - Bm - C - D - Em - F#º

But I'm going nuts with the minor mode...

I mean...

Am - then what!?!??!?! which chord is major and which one is minor??? Please someone help me!

Just keep it clean, no theoretical explanation, i would appreciate it, but it takes me a lot of time to understand it in English...I know the words, but they just don't stay on.

Major progression:
--1------2---------3------4-------5---------6-----------7
Major - Minor - Minor - Major - Major - minor - dimished

Thanks again.

Fede

[taparoo]

For minor all you do is start at the 6th degree of the major scale (think the 6th scale degree as the 1). So just start at the 6th degree of the scale and work your way through. You end up with:

i iiº III iv v VI VII for the chord formula
(lowercase = minor, uppercase = major)

So in the key of A minor you'd get:
Am Bº C Dm Em F G

Make sense?

[fede]

Really?? it was that simple all along!?

Thanks a lot tapa, you're always there for me (heart).

So thats sort of the general formulae for all the scales??

Fede

[taparoo]

Really?? it was that simple all along!?

Thanks a lot tapa, you're always there for me (heart).

So thats sort of the general formulae for all the scales??

Fede

If you're talking about the major scale formula (I ii iii IV V vi viiº), then yes, that's the scale that all other scales are 'related' to. When you see things like b7 when talking about scales, it's saying to flat the 7th in the major scale. You could say the major scale is what the other scales are built from.

[fede]

SO there is no difference chord wise between a minor progression and a major one....only the order?

C:

C dm em F G am Bº

Am:

A Bº C d e F G

So a song could have any of those chords and the key would be the same, am I correct??

Fede

[taparoo]

SO there is no difference chord wise between a minor progression and a major one....only the order?

If you mean that a major scale and its aeolian mode (the natural minor scale taken from that major scale) have the same chords, just different order, then yes, you are right.

So a song could have any of those chords and the key would be the same, am I correct??

Yes, you could use any of those chords and still stay within the key you are playing in (and not worry about playing anything 'wrong', or out of place).

[fede]

Well that made me get it again.

THanks a lot!

Fede

[Guitarlover22]

FYI...In a minor scale progression, the V chord is usally still played major (Or V7) because it's assumed the the 7th scale degree is played as a leading tone (G# in the key of A minor). That would also affect any other chord with the 7th scale degree in it. Hope it's not too technical.

Jimmy

[fede]

You kind of lost me there...

Fede

[Sciaracastro]

he basically said this:

here's Am chord progression

a Bº C d e F G

as u can see, u should play Em.

he said u can play it as a Emaj, because the 7th degree of Am scale is considered a leading tone. As u can see, the 7th degree of the scale (G#) is the note that changes Em (G note) into E (G#)

[fede]

Oh! I think I get it.

But the 7th note in Am is G, not G#...

A Bº C d e F G ??

Fede

[Sciaracastro]

Oh! I think I get it.

But the 7th note in Am is G, not G#...

A Bº C d e F G ??

Fede

indeed

i think he was talking about harmonic or melodic minor scale, because (i didnt notice it before lol) in a natural minor scale the 7th degree isnt a leading tone at all

[Guitarlover22]

...It is usually asumed when it comes to minor chord progressions that they are played using the 'harmonic' minor scale, not the 'natural' minor scale. The reason is to keep the V chord a dominant chord (V7). It has to do with rules that go back to the 1700's with J.S. Bach. Remember, rules are made to be broken...

Jimmy

[taparoo]

...It is usually asumed when it comes to minor chord progressions that they are played using the 'harmonic' minor scale, not the 'natural' minor scale. The reason is to keep the V chord a dominant chord (V7). It has to do with rules that go back to the 1700's with J.S. Bach. Remember, rules are made to be broken...

Jimmy

Hmmm... I always thought natural minor whenever I heard someone mention 'minor'.

[fede]

I thought of nothing normally...

Question: when in the LIOG jam dave and the band changes from the D starting jam....to the Em Starting jam. What does he change there??? Why is it easier to solo for a longer time in such a way?

I can't figure it out.

Fede