Play scales or play what you feel?

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Unread post by J_Wyse » Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:45 pm

Learning, scales, chords, modes,etc considerably opens
up the pallet of colors that you have to choose from when you go to express your self, jamming, writing, and performing.
You'll never go wrong learning more music theory.
It's what you do with it after that makes it magical.

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Unread post by 1eyed_jack » Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:13 pm

J_Wyse wrote:Learning, scales, chords, modes,etc considerably opens
up the pallet of colors that you have to choose from when you go to express your self.
ya but if you don't know scales then you aren't limited to those colors.Sure you might end up witha shitty looking color, but it also gives you the potential to create a beautiful color that is unique.

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Unread post by MWR » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:21 pm

1eyed_jack wrote:
J_Wyse wrote:Learning, scales, chords, modes,etc considerably opens
up the pallet of colors that you have to choose from when you go to express your self.
ya but if you don't know scales then you aren't limited to those colors.Sure you might end up witha shitty looking color, but it also gives you the potential to create a beautiful color that is unique.
Ok you're officially annoying the crap out of me.
You just don't get it. Every color you could possibly create can be described with theory. Every color has already been created, it's how you mix and present them that matters.
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Unread post by Tranman66 » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:43 pm

lets mix purple with red see what we get lol.

no i am sorry just the way we use "colors" is amusing
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Unread post by gumbomadness » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:43 pm

MWR wrote:
1eyed_jack wrote:
J_Wyse wrote:Learning, scales, chords, modes,etc considerably opens
up the pallet of colors that you have to choose from when you go to express your self.
ya but if you don't know scales then you aren't limited to those colors.Sure you might end up witha shitty looking color, but it also gives you the potential to create a beautiful color that is unique.
Ok you're officially annoying the crap out of me.
You just don't get it. Every color you could possibly create can be described with theory. Every color has already been created, it's how you mix and present them that matters.
Believe what you want to believe.
mwr should be president.
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Unread post by i like tictacs » Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:00 am

1eyed_jack wrote: NEIL : It would give you a rather sad view of your future, wouldn't it? First off, nobody cares if you know how to play scales. Nobody gives a shit if you have good technique or not. It's whether you have feelings that you want to express with music, that's what counts, really. When you are able to express yourself and feel good, then you know why you're playing. The technical aspect is absolute hogwash as far as I'm concerned. It bores me to tears. I can't play fast. I don't even know my scales. I know that most of the notes I play aren't where I play them. They're simply not there. So you can play any note you like. I think about it on another level, I don't care about that sort of shit. On the other hand, I appreciate really great guitarists, and I'm very impressed by those metal groups with their scale guitarists. When I see that, I go «Holy shit, that's really something». Satriani and Eddie Van Halen are guitar geniuses. They are incredible musicians, at an amazing level. But it does't really grab me. One note will do.

beautiful, right there.

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Unread post by gumbomadness » Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:10 am

thats not beautiful.. its lazy. partly true.. but partly false.
No one learns scales to play scales. (he says he doesnt care if someone can play a scale)
NO ONE *plays* scales.
You use the scales as a guide so when you are jammin in a solo you have an idea of what frets to mess with and which will sound like a fart.
And thats just one use for scales of course. All im saying is.. you should always play what you feel... but theory is so useful... and to not learn it (or even try) (if you take your instrument very seriously) is a little lazy.
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Unread post by 1eyed_jack » Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:46 am

i agree theory is useful, but i also see way too many cookie cutter bands that play sclaes and call it a solo. Anyone in the world can learn a scale and play it, but music is all about expressing yourself. Neil young is like an abstract artist, his solos may not seem conventional but that doens't make them bad, it makes them unique

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Unread post by Tranman66 » Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:18 pm

yeah? i never heard a band that play a scale and call it a solo.
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Unread post by 1eyed_jack » Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:03 am

Tranman66 wrote:yeah? i never heard a band that play a scale and call it a solo.

throw on some OAR

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