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chords geniuses please help

Unread post by daverlyhills41420 » Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:26 pm

i wrote this song using weird chords and i don't know what the names of the chords are. my reasoning for wanting to know the names of the chords is so i can find the corresponding scales so i can solo over it and make an instrumental. if anyone knows what these chords or the scales that go over them help would be great, thanks.

[code]
E---0---0--0--0--0--0--
B--12--10--8--7--5--3--
G---0---0--0--0--0--0--
D--12--11--9--7--5--4--
A--10---9--7--5--3--2--
E----------------------[/code]

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Unread post by bugman96 » Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:39 pm

G6 F#m-9 Em D11 (or D11M7) C Em9


These identities were found using a program called Winchord

http://home.c2i.net/jalme/download.html

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Unread post by daverlyhills41420 » Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:48 pm

thanks alot. i was trying to find the chords by searching chord finders and dictionaries with no luck. you helped me a lot.

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Unread post by ericwormann » Thu Apr 24, 2003 9:48 pm

I would call them:
G6
F#m7addb9
Em
Dadd2add4 (or Dadd2 4)
C
Em9/B

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Unread post by grock » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:13 am

and the scales around this will be easy. stick around in G (or to a lesser extent Em, where you might expect to see some D#'s every so once in a while)

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Unread post by ticohans » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:35 am

Do you really play that second chord as posted? I'm just asking because it has a tritone interval in it... I play around with those chord formations all the time, and I play this instead of what you have listed as your second chord:

-0--
-10-
-0--
-12-
-9--
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Unread post by Pickles » Fri Apr 25, 2003 9:14 am

ticohans how did you learn this type of stuff? i wish i knew how... :( .. did you learn off a website? or a class? something?
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Unread post by Jay » Fri Apr 25, 2003 10:52 am

it's all from learning music theory i'd say....which i have 2 semesters of next year...finally :D
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Unread post by gravedigger » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:33 pm

yeah that 2nd chord doesn't sound the best. anyway, I'd call the chords:

Em7 (1st inversion - 3rd as root)
D9add4 (1st inversion- 3rd as root) (Tico's chord)
Em
D9add4
C
Em9 (2nd inversion - 5th as root)

Em is definately the scale to use here.

those D9add4 chords are kinda like G chords anyway. its like Em or G for the scales. what does everyone else think? I'm along the same lines as Grock.
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Unread post by ericwormann » Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:21 pm

I may be wrong, but doesn't a 9th chord have to have a 7 in it?

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Unread post by bugman96 » Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:50 pm

winglet82 wrote:I may be wrong, but doesn't a 9th chord have to have a 7 in it?
Technically it does.

This thread from another guitar site is pretty helpful
http://www.zentao.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000429.html
those D9add4 chords are kinda like G chords anywa
Yeah.

I plugged the fingering for that D chord in a program called Winchord
Here are the matches it gave (depending on what key you're playing in):

Em11
D11
D11M7
Gm13M7
G13M7
A13sus4

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Unread post by ticohans » Fri Apr 25, 2003 9:54 pm

Grave, I'd call that first chord a G6, due to the doubling of the G and the fact that it's in the bass.

Yes, shane, it's all music theory, which I've had three semesters of here at college, and some before college..

Winglet, in traditional jazz chord naming, the 9th does include the 7th. Thus a more appropriate notation would be a "sus2" as opposed to the "9."

And finally, definitely don't use the Em scale, as the usual Em scale includes a D#, which does not sound good in the context of these chords unless you REALLY know what you're doing with the scale.

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Unread post by DustyDave » Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:17 pm

Tico my friend .... I hate you :cry: :shock: .... j/k you should really make a whole website based on your knowledge within the theory :lol:

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Unread post by ericwormann » Sat Apr 26, 2003 12:26 am

ticohans wrote: Winglet, in traditional jazz chord naming, the 9th does include the 7th. Thus a more appropriate notation would be a "sus2" as opposed to the "9."
Okay I"m really nitpicking here, so forgive me if you want to punch me, but I thought that a suspended means that the note is suspended in place of the third. Since the chord contains a 3rd and a 2nd, shouldn't it be add2 instead of sus2?

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Unread post by ticohans » Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:03 am

I don't know winglet. You could very well be right there. I always thought that sus2 and add2 meant the same thing and were redundant. But I don't really know.

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