Those stupid Pantala fingerings...

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Those stupid Pantala fingerings...

Unread post by billywestom » Mon Apr 07, 2003 10:49 pm

Can anyone give a reason why Dave uses such strange fingerings for those last chords of Pantala/WWBOM? Ok, he has his own style...whatever...but I think any smart person would realize the more convienent way to play it...I really am curious if someone has an idea... :?
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Re: Those stupid Pantala fingerings...

Unread post by jsgksu » Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:05 pm

billywestom wrote:Can anyone give a reason why Dave uses such strange fingerings for those last chords of Pantala/WWBOM? Ok, he has his own style...whatever...but I think any smart person would realize the more convienent way to play it...I really am curious if someone has an idea... :?
Which ones are you talking about specifically?
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Unread post by Jay » Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:12 pm

i'm guessing one of them is that stupid chord before the Em where he has his hand on backwards or something...
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Unread post by jsgksu » Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:32 pm

Jay wrote:i'm guessing one of them is that stupid chord before the Em where he has his hand on backwards or something...
I play the low E there with my thumb and just make a regular C chord, its much easier.
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Unread post by DMBFreak84 » Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:58 pm

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e--3--3--2--3--3-- 
b--3--2--3--3--3-- 
g--------2--2--0-- 
d--2--2--0--0--0-- 
a--2--0----------- 
e-----------3--3-- 


heres what i came up with, it sounds really close, and its not that difficult to play either, just a few minor chord changes, hand stays basically in the same position
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Unread post by bugman96 » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:00 am

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-3---------
-3---------
-0---------
-2---------
-2---------
-0---------
Try that for the Em chord

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Unread post by bugman96 » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:00 am

DMBFreak84 wrote:

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e--3--3--2--3--3-- 
b--3--2--3--3--3-- 
g--------2--2--0-- 
d--2--2--0--0--0-- 
a--2--0----------- 
e-----------3--3-- 


heres what i came up with, it sounds really close, and its not that difficult to play either, just a few minor chord changes, hand stays basically in the same position
beat me to it

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Unread post by KevinGTArch » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:10 am

Ok you can tackle this song (and subsequently WWBOM) a couple of ways. The first is to do it like this site has more or less accurately tabbed:

E-----------------------0----3----3---------------3--
B-8----8----7----3----0----3----3----2----3----3--
G-x----x----x----x----x----x----2----2----2----0--
D-5----x----4----4----2----2----2----2----x----0--
A-7----7----5----5----2----2---------------x----2--
E-------5---------3--------------------------2----3--

You can actually break this down into two parts:

E----------------------- E-0----3----3---------------3--
B-8----8----7----3---- B-0----3----3----2----3----3--
G-x----x----x----x---- G-x----x----2----2----2----0--
D-5----x----4----4---- D-2----2----2----2----x----0--
A-7----7----5----5---- A-2----2---------------x----2--
E-------5---------3---- E-----------------------2----3--

Musically, both parts are the EXACT same chord progression but just different voicings. SO if the first part is too difficult then you can just use the seconds part for the same effect.

Just remember that the first two chords in the second part each get half the measure so it's all played in the same time.

And, FYI, --2-2-3-3 is actually an Em7.

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Unread post by billywestom » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:17 am

oh i didnt mean different chords...i play the exact chords that dave does, just with different fingers.. i am talking about the 4th, 5th, 6, 7 8 and 9th chords, dave uses a wierd and unnecessary fingerings.
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Unread post by KevinGTArch » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:21 am

Oh, psh, use whatever fingerings you want. I'm a firm believer in doing whatever is the most comfortable for you.

I know like for Satellite I use my index, ring, and pink instead of index, middle, and pinky like Dave. Too me it is just easier that way.

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Unread post by billywestom » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:22 am

wow i just tried that, that is WEIRD i guess just because im not used to it
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Unread post by KevinGTArch » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:41 am

Yeah, when my fingers were still virgins it was too hard of a stretch so I improvised. Now that they're all good and stretched out, it just feels natural that way I've been doing it. Anytime I play a DMB song with one of those 5-fret riff/chord spans I use the same index, ring, pinky setup.

I know...I'm also weird.


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Unread post by billywestom » Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:14 am

i play those chords the same....this post is just way too confusing i think...watch jkanter's video for the song - he plays it like dave, and you might see what i mean..
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Unread post by dmfollower » Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:12 am

i usually just play pantala naga pampa the same way as i play wwbom, but ofcoure there are different ways of playing the song..i.e. the 075087 way or the 02233 way. i'm pretty sure he uses both(listen to any d&t version of jimi thing). its the same song isn't it? ofcourse there's gonna be two different ways to play it, isn't there for every song?
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Unread post by ryopan » Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:47 pm

i love playing dave chords cuz when theres someone who has never ever seen them before and you bust them out like nothing, they are mega impressed. i have a friend who writes some pretty awesome stuff and plays all the time but when i played w/ him once, his eyes lit up seeing the strange shapes and stretches. i think playing all over the place (neck wise) really frees you up and allows you to really come up w/ crazy stuff. good times.
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