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NEED HELP ON ONE SWEET WORLD

Unread post by TOMAMI » Mon Apr 07, 2003 4:33 pm

I have played guitar for a year and a half and often thought I knew Daves stuff. I was wrong. It's not that I couldn't do what the tab on this web site said. you must watch dave play to get what he really does with both right & left hands. My question is how does dave play the verse on one sweet world and please don't tell me he bars it picks the notes one at a time then adds his pinkie and slides and mutes. Because that is wrong wrong wrong... He looks like he mutes with the 1 finger holding down the A string on the 6th fret and adds notes with each strum then adds finger and slides. does he play the the notes together 6 8 7 strumming 6 then adding 6 8 then adding 6 8 7 and on the last strum befor the slide add the bass 6 6 8 7 to before the slide. I need some pro help on this. not sure what I am talking about watch farmaid osw. also some body answer that kids question on the warehouse intro.

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Unread post by Pickles » Mon Apr 07, 2003 4:39 pm

if im not mistaken the fingering is on the tab on this site. i havent played it in a while, but i dont think i ever barred anything.
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Unread post by billywestom » Mon Apr 07, 2003 4:39 pm

i almost think i know what you are asking.....the way you tried to explain it is wrong....he does pick each individual note, but he lets the previous notes ring on each pick, until the mute before slides up to the 10's...
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Unread post by Speenis » Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:03 pm

If you have KazaA or something, you should DL the Farmaid version of it, it gives a nice view of both hands. I'm really confused about what anybody has posted so far, so, I'm just gonna say that the site is right. Also, it is easier for me, rhythm-wise, to individually pick each note, it flows easier. But thats just me.
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Unread post by TOMAMI » Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:55 pm

Shane the bar part in the verse I was talking about was my 1st finger on the 6th fret holding down the E and A string and 3rd finger on 8th D string and 2nd finger on 7th G string (my favorite string of all.). watch the farmaid osw

Bill thanx for the reply I thought he picked each note at a time until I watched farmaid osw he is hitting 2 or 3 stings with each strum don't know if he mutes or playes what he is hitting. please someone watch it and let me know if i need my head checked?

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Unread post by Corona5k1635 » Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:25 pm

You're damn right. I play OSW and I swear it sounds so damn accurate its sick. You just strum ur ass off but make sure they are dave type "picking strums". So yes you do clip the other strings but it just basically sounds like they are ringing longer. But yes you could almost think of it as 6,
6 8, 6 8 7, then the bass note with em... ( i think those are the numbers you said)
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Unread post by TOMAMI » Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:11 pm

Thank you corona5k1635. I am not sure what you mean by dave type pick strumming (please let me know .) but I bet alot of the guys on this board don't understand what we are talking about. Just look @ the emails.
I am guessing over half maybe more play just like the tab picking each note one at a time. This style of pick strumming daves playing is used on alot of his songs Ants marching , the stone intro, Warehouse and more.

P.S. if anyone reading this thinks we are crazy look into it. Watch his videos and focus on that strum when he sounds like he picks. It may not be a full strum bet he is hitting more than one string.

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Unread post by jsgksu » Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:16 pm

TOMAMI wrote:Thank you corona5k1635. I am not sure what you mean by dave type pick strumming (please let me know .) but I bet alot of the guys on this board don't understand what we are talking about. Just look @ the emails.
I am guessing over half maybe more play just like the tab picking each note one at a time. This style of pick strumming daves playing is used on alot of his songs Ants marching , the stone intro, Warehouse and more.

P.S. if anyone reading this thinks we are crazy look into it. Watch his videos and focus on that strum when he sounds like he picks. It may not be a full strum bet he is hitting more than one string.
Its been my assumption that when Dave does what your talking about he does pick one string, it looks like he is strumming because his hand is moving up and down but he is only hitting one string with each pass. I may be wrong but I think Ive heard other people on the boards describe it in that manner. If Im wrong, let me know.
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Unread post by TOMAMI » Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:47 pm

(JSGKSU) First off did you watch the farmaid osw like I asked? I also thought he was picking the notes. You can see when dave picks just watch the intro to farmaid osw the part 4 to 5h3 to 3/5 to 5/7 you clearly see when he is picking. I just think this needs some attention. Another thing to try is picking each note with the same motion he uses. (impossible)

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Unread post by TOMAMI » Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:58 pm

I POSTED NEED HELP ON OSW. I NEED MORE IN PUT. I THINK ALOT OF US WOULD LIKE TO KNOW PICK OR STRUM WHAT DOES HE DO?

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Unread post by dmfollower » Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:22 pm

i've read all of your replies and you do have a good point, dave does use a more of a struming type pattern......on the farm aid osw. i have a ton of d+t versions not to mention l@lc and r2t and for the most part he picks the notes, not strums them. i'm not disagreeing with you, i have seen the farm aid osw and i do think that he uses a sweeping/struming pattern on that performance. you have to remember that dave is fucking amazing on the guitar and i'm sure he's got a few tricks up his sleeve that he didn't put on his albums. you picked out a great point and if your playing osw alone it does add more sound to the song, thanks TOMAMI!
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Unread post by jkanter » Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:13 pm

First off.....I'm not sure what other kind of help you can really have for the song other than what people are giving you here but maybe this will help.

You are right, Dave does look like he hits all the top strings when strumming and there's a good chance he does. What he does is hit the 6onE first. Then he lets that ring for a sec and then uses his first finger to mute the top 3 strings. So basically you use your first finger to mute any strings that aren't being played.

Now what someone said about "dave type pick strumming" is that Dave has an inate ability to strum a full strum but hit ONLY 1 string at a time. Take a look at Recently, Rhyme & Reason, Ants Marching....those are all good examples. Dave uses his amazing muting ability to make sure that only that note makes a sound and maybe a little mute in there also.

Your best bet is to watch Dave's strumming hand on Farm Aid and try to mimic that. Get the fingering and movements down first and then you should be fine. Maybe the video on my site would help also....peace man
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Unread post by jsgksu » Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:19 pm

I wrote a reply in your other (now blocked) post that I shoulda put in here probably, dont feel like writing it again, check it out: http://www.dmbtabs.com/boards/viewtopic ... highlight=
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Unread post by TOMAMI » Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:51 pm

JKANTER Iam not trying to get the tab changed. I love this site. Iam asking because if this is how he plays I also would like to play in the same fashion. I also watched Ants marching and he does strum the 4/5 to 4 to 4/5 to 0 and the 4/5 to 5 to 4/5 to 5/7 in the verse. Watch the ants marching video. he looks like he mute in front of the 1 and 2 finger with the 3 finger. All I want is to get to the bottom of this and I get alot of different opions.

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Unread post by Brock » Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:53 pm

TOMAMI wrote:JKANTER Iam not trying to get the tab changed. I love this site. Iam asking because if this is how he plays I also would like to play in the same fashion. I also watched Ants marching and he does strum the 4/5 to 4 to 4/5 to 0 and the 4/5 to 5 to 4/5 to 5/7 in the verse. Watch the ants marching video. he looks like he mute in front of the 1 and 2 finger with the 3 finger. All I want is to get to the bottom of this and I get alot of different opions.
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