barre chords

byahplayer · Unread post by **byahplayer** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:19 pm

i hate barre chords and i cant get play the damn things right anymore. my barre finger is too weak and its really pissing me off. THat being said what are some jazz chords i can work with in the time being or any jazz phrasing

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:24 pm

i dont like them either but instead of something like 1-1-3-2-1-1 i play x-x-3-2-1-x. make sense? it sounds better to me.

ryopan · Unread post by **ryopan** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:58 pm

yeah, they bother me at times. i dont play them all the time, only when i want that sound. that can be your excuse too.....

tomek322 · Unread post by **tomek322** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 4:43 pm

there was huge dabate on this in like three months ago.. and someone said that barre chords can be replace by four note jazz voicing... ie 133211 replaced by 1x321xx... i believe that he said that a thumb is used to play the note on the low E... now personally that jazz voicing is ten times harder to play with my hands but give it a shot... i usually play my barre chords without the two high strings.. so an F is just 1332xx... definitly a lot easier..

on a side note it took me about six months to be able to get in and out of barre chords comfortably, i considered just giving up, so dont be too worried if you cant do it right away... the first switch i learned was from a C to F, seems easy to pivot around the ring finger...

ericwormann · Unread post by **ericwormann** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:31 pm

Fran · Unread post by **Fran** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:23 pm

barre chords aren't really bad but they do get irritating at times especially when you jam them for a long time and your fingers get tired at times

DMBFreak84 · Unread post by **DMBFreak84** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:36 am

barre chords are easy, like in true reflections. i guess it took a while for them to come to me easily, but i can do them w/o any problem now. and they sound really really good once you can do them

Trippin Hillbilly · Unread post by **Trippin Hillbilly** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:35 am

DMBFreak84 wrote:barre chords are easy, like in true reflections. i guess it took a while for them to come to me easily, but i can do them w/o any problem now. and they sound really really good once you can do them

when you say barre chord'S in true reflections...are you talking about the F in the jam? Cause technically that would be barre chord....hehe
Anyway...unless you're playing something else , then i would be the fool........lalalaaaaaaaa

DMBFreak84 · Unread post by **DMBFreak84** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:51 am

yeah, i do mean the F chord in the jam, thats exactly what im talking about

cherv · Unread post by **cherv** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:32 pm

I don't think it qualifies as a jazz "voicing" but I *love* the 9 chords. For example x87888. Barre the 3 high strings with your ring finger, hit the d string with the middle annd the a string with the index (I don't see any other weay of doing it) The chords have a very smooth swingin' sound to them and you can bust out some funky rhythms just sliding that shape up and down the neck... I just wish I could do something else with it.

If ya check the tab for "Anyone Seen the Bridge?" you'll see he uses 9 chords for it.

As for the struggle to get a good barrin' finger, play chords up past the 7th fret. For me the easiest one to hit was an C#(IX), and I couldn't play an F(I) to save my life. Over time, chords got easier and easier to sustain further down the neck, to the point where I could hit that F with no problem.

Its a process and doesn't happen overnight. Patience is the key.

billywestom · Unread post by **billywestom** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:12 pm

another tip...if you're playing a minor bar chord (based on the E string) use your first finger to bar, and your middle finger to push down on your first finger, to get a better grip on the strings. not a "genious" tip, but maybe you hadn't tried it...

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:14 pm

lots of good tips here so far. I don't really have anything to add except that I tend not to play full barre chords because well, they're unnecessary. I like the sound of, say, this Bb chord- 6-5-3-7-x-x than this one: 6-8-8-7-6-6. but depending on the song, you might want the power that the barre chords give with all there ones and fives (scale degree 1 and 5)

billywestom · Unread post by **billywestom** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:35 pm

i agree, i never play the FULL barre chord. for instance instead of this Bm:

224432 I instead play this: X2443X

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