Naming Dave Chords

littlefriend · Unread post by **littlefriend** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:58 pm

So those goofy Dave chords (i.e., xx3x13, x8x57x, etc.)? Why don't they have names? Since most "Dave chords" tend to be just 1sts and 3rds with no 5th, the way power chords are just 1sts and 5ths with no 3rd, why don't we call them 3rd Chords? That would make xx3x13 an A#3, and x8x57x a Em3. It seems to make sense, even though they don't seem to exist. Or am I just dumb? What am I missing here?

natedawg · Unread post by **natedawg** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:06 am

If you ever read the cherry lane books, I think it is funny how they always make a special note for this. It will show a regular chord name at the top of the measure, but be sure to include a footnote making it absolutely clear that the chord names reflect the combined harmony of the two guitars or even the combined harmony of the whole band where usually another instrument has picked up that fifth completing the chord.

DMBFan63 · Unread post by **DMBFan63** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:12 am

Learn theory and you'll be able to name any chord dave plays. They're not too complicated

littlefriend · Unread post by **littlefriend** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:29 am

I have some theoretical knowledge, yet I can't name some of those chords using general theory and standard chord names. Ultimately it doesn't matter, but when playing with friends someone sees the chord shape and inevitably asks "What the hell chord is that?" My best response is usually "Some form of *chord name*." All I was wondering is what the formal names are, if any. I see I totally failed at making my point in my first post. Sorry about that.

DMBFan63 · Unread post by **DMBFan63** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:51 am

littlefriend420 wrote:I have some theoretical knowledge, yet I can't name some of those chords using general theory and standard chord names. Ultimately it doesn't matter, but when playing with friends someone sees the chord shape and inevitably asks "What the hell chord is that?" My best response is usually "Some form of *chord name*." All I was wondering is what the formal names are, if any. I see I totally failed at making my point in my first post. Sorry about that.

I didn't read the post anyway..hah. I was just saying using theory, and some work, you can name all of his chords pretty easily. Personally, I'm not one to give two shits what the names are, but I do the same thing"Some form of a *chord name*" when someone asks..

dmfollower · Unread post by **dmfollower** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:12 am

I don't know shit about theory or naming chords, although i'm good at making up names :lol:

(i.e. some form of "chord")
I would be pretty interested in seeing a list of names for some of the rather creative chords dave plays. Any takers?

natedawg · Unread post by **natedawg** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:18 am

Ok, I will try and bring some theory into this. If you know what makes a chord, the basic stucture is 3 notes, the first, third and fifth. However, its the third that is the most important note. Depending on what the third is determines if it is major, minor, diminished, augmented, things like that. So lets take a chord for example. 31x3xx This is G,B flat, G. Now a normal G chord would be G,B,D. Since the 3rd or the B is what we are looking at and it is a B flat in this case, it makes the chord minor. So theoretically, I think it would just be called a Gm or G minor chord. That is my take on it. Most of these probably would follow the same idea.

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:20 am

natedawg wrote:Ok, I will try and bring some theory into this. If you know what makes a chord, the basic stucture is 3 notes, the first, third and fifth. However, its the third that is the most important note. Depending on what the third is determines if it is major, minor, diminished, augmented, things like that. So lets take a chord for example. 31x3xx This is G,B flat, G. Now a normal G chord would be G,B,D. Since the 3rd or the B is what we are looking at and it is a B flat in this case, it makes the chord minor. So theoretically, I think it would just be called a Gm or G minor chord. That is my take on it. Most of these probably would follow the same idea.

5ths are not very important in a chord...u can play just the 1st and the 3rd and delete the 5th...so this 31x3xx is a Gm...

Easy E · Unread post by **Easy E** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:38 am

Im pretty sure that Gmin chord is just a G a
Bflat than an octave of the Bflat. Thats all most of his chords are, a first a third and an octave of the third

mlb1399 · Unread post by **mlb1399** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:12 pm

A chord needs 3 notes for it to be a chord.

Easy E · Unread post by **Easy E** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:36 pm

You mom needs 3 notes to be a chord

natedawg · Unread post by **natedawg** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:58 pm

A chord does not need three notes to be a chord. Musicians talk about open chords all the time that are missing various notes in them possibly resulting in just two notes played. A power chord only has two notes and is often called an open chord because it is not defined by its third and is open to be accompanied by any variation. I am sure there is another school of thought that would just define what dave plays as playing to notes, you could call the finger position G and B flat and say it is not a chord. I am sure this could be argued all day.

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:25 pm

eze3484 wrote:Im pretty sure that Gmin chord is just a G a
Bflat than an octave of the Bflat. Thats all most of his chords are, a first a third and an octave of the third

this is how Dave plays...

mlb1399 wrote:A chord needs 3 notes for it to be a chord.

chords are more notes togheter...so they can even need just 2 notes...
here we call 3 notes chords "triadi"...cant translate well though..it means composed by 3 :lol:

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:34 pm

natedawg wrote:Ok, I will try and bring some theory into this. If you know what makes a chord, the basic stucture is 3 notes, the first, third and fifth. However, its the third that is the most important note. Depending on what the third is determines if it is major, minor, diminished, augmented, things like that. So lets take a chord for example. 31x3xx This is G,B flat, G. Now a normal G chord would be G,B,D. Since the 3rd or the B is what we are looking at and it is a B flat in this case, it makes the chord minor. So theoretically, I think it would just be called a Gm or G minor chord. That is my take on it. Most of these probably would follow the same idea.

The third determines if it's major or minor but the fifth detirmines if it's aumented or diminished.
I'd be happy to name whatever Dave chords and give an explanation on how to do it. It's a little hard to follow though without a basic knowledge of theory.

Oh and mlb is technically correct in that a chord must contain at least three different notes to be a chord. "Power chord" is one of those terms that is technically incorrect but widely accepted.

hmm69 · Unread post by **hmm69** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:43 pm

i just give them made up names for example the 4th chord in crazy i call it a little bitch

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