key for jimi thing?

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:11 pm

can someone help me out? i just learned how to play it, and my roommate deemed it "the coolest riff ever", but i'm not good at keys and things......
thanks

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:16 pm

Jay wrote:can someone help me out? i just learned how to play it, and my roommate deemed it "the coolest riff ever", but i'm not good at keys and things......
thanks

i dont even know how to find a key.. dont really understand it

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:31 pm

Jay wrote:can someone help me out? i just learned how to play it, and my roommate deemed it "the coolest riff ever", but i'm not good at keys and things......
thanks

The song is pretty much in A.

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:40 pm

Sorry, grave, but no, it's not mostly in A.

The main riff part and the verses are all in E major. The chorus is slightly ambiguous, but if one were going to define a key area, it would definitely be D major. The end part of the chorus ("Well some time a jimmy thing...") is in A major.

johntherevelator · Unread post by **johntherevelator** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:48 pm

ticohans wrote:Sorry, grave, but no, it's not mostly in A.

The main riff part and the verses are all in E major. The chorus is slightly ambiguous, but if one were going to define a key area, it would definitely be D major. The end part of the chorus ("Well some time a jimmy thing...") is in A major.

im sorry but how do you figure e major?

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:52 pm

E is pretty clearly the dominant chord, and if you listen to the melody, the scale that is used is E major. If it were in A major, it wouldn't hang around E, G# and B the way it does. Those three notes are the three that make up the E major triad. Finally, all those G#'s in the melody would lead to A's, but they don't. Trust me, just play an E chord along with a CD and you'll hear it.

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:30 am

sorry tico, Jimi Thing is in A. I'll take that to the grave when I dig it.

I thought about E but although the song hovers in E (which is the V of A) it's the A that grabs you buy the balls if you know what I mean. ya know after the main riff, it goes to to x-x-x-9-9-x which is E than it goes to that hard D on the (if you could keep me floating...) than to F than to D than to C than to D - this is hovering around the key of....wait for it......booom A then sometimes a jimi thing slides my way..... to E (the V of A) than back to A. hmmmmmmm. i guess you can think of E as the major and the song hovering around the IV which is A. hard to say. boy its late and I don't know if anything I just wrote will make sense to anybody.

How about this: its in A/E

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:33 am

ok, I admit it, it is in E. its a Hendrix blues riff rip off, so I should've known.

PilotC150 · Unread post by **PilotC150** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:32 am

gravedigger wrote:ok, I admit it, it is in E. its a Hendrix blues riff rip off, so I should've known.

Yup. Same as Angel and PJ's Yellow ledbetter

ericwormann · Unread post by **ericwormann** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:00 pm

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:08 pm

winglet82 wrote:
PilotC150 wrote:
gravedigger wrote:ok, I admit it, it is in E. its a Hendrix blues riff rip off, so I should've known.
Yup. Same as Angel and PJ's Yellow ledbetter
Actually angel is in B major, but that's a whole nother debate.

yeah, Angel is in B but I think Pilot just meant that the Angel riff was ripped from yellow ledbetter.

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:12 pm

gravedigger wrote:
winglet82 wrote:
PilotC150 wrote:
gravedigger wrote:ok, I admit it, it is in E. its a Hendrix blues riff rip off, so I should've known.
Yup. Same as Angel and PJ's Yellow ledbetter
Actually angel is in B major, but that's a whole nother debate.
yeah, Angel is in B but I think Pilot just meant that the Angel riff was ripped from yellow ledbetter.

NO WAY, THE SONG THAT RIPS YL OFF IS THAT CRAPPY KID ROCK song that was out there for awhile...the slow one...it ticked me off every time I heard it...

and YL *almost* sounds like a rip off of a Hendrix riff...

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:23 pm

The song does go in to A later on, but it starts in E. It also plays with D for a while.

YOU WOULD DO BEST NOT TO CONTRADICT ME WHEN IT COMES TO THEORY!!!!! :twisted:

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:27 pm

what was I thinking???? it was late and uhh....um....boy this beer is good.

but if Jimi Thing is in E than where's the Bmajor chord in the song. its not touched. does that matter? I don't feel E as much as A in the song.

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:31 pm

The first part of the opening lick is in B:

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-------7-------------------
--7-9----9-7--------------

or whatever it is, that's in B. If you played a B there with the CD, it sounds right. The E doesn't. Also, the scale used is pretty clearly E major, as the G#'s do not resolve to A's, and the D note that's played towards the end of the first lick:

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--6 h 7-------------
--7-----------------
--0-----------------
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the hit on there, that's a D, anyway, that D is clearly a suspension, as opposed to the subdominant scale degree of A.

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