First gig, and setlist

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:09 pm

Me and a freind are gonna do an acoustic show at the end of school, we arent singing (for various reasons

) and are playin allot of dave songs, and trade off playing. We are prolly gonna open with two step and close with watchtower, the rest is open, and since well, whats better than 2 dave heads makin a setlist, hundreds of daveheads giving input. Heres a list of all the dave songs either of us can play. this isnt a setlist.

Where are you going
Tripping Billies
Typical Situation
Crash Into me
Two Step
Pay for what you get
Seek Up
Satelite
Bartendar
Dont Drink the Watter
Grey Street
Grave Digger
Cortez The Killer

also im throwin in allot of phish, moe. and original stuff

Lets see what cool little things yall can come up with!

whip3512 · Unread post by **whip3512** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:36 pm

I dig the songs dude. What other songs are you gonna play? You said it was MOSTLY Dave stuff, so I'm interested in what other stuff you guys are interested in. Also, if either one of you know how to play The Stone, then do that one. That always gets me a positive reaction.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:39 pm

um, suggestion, don't do too much of one artist unless you want to be a cover band.

variety is the key

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:40 pm

yea, those arent a set list, those are just songs we can play, well try to learn the stone. too

i like phish and will play i dirt and first tube.

hes gonna do blackbird, and some other stuff

also we might play a few of the things weve writen.

sooooo, i guess if anyone knows how those songs up there can be arranged really really cool..... i got this idea that sounds awesome where i play typical situation and the time i get to the second chourus i got thru it twice, and the thir time around when i get to the Am, i go in to the watchtower intro (Am, G, F)and start a really awesome watchtower

GreyBlueAnt · Unread post by **GreyBlueAnt** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:48 pm

those are all great songs, but with out vocals, you miss alot of the song. For example, DDTW is basically the same chord repeated over and over again. so if you're gonna do it, without vocals, try listening to the bluegrass tribute to DMB. they overcome it by playing the vocal melody on instruments. It might work out for you that way.

Reckless · Unread post by **Reckless** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:43 pm

Yeah man, playing all those songs would be weird without any vocals.

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:36 am

filmdude100cms wrote:yea, those arent a set list, those are just songs we can play, well try to learn the stone. too

i like phish and will play i dirt and first tube.

hes gonna do blackbird, and some other stuff

also we might play a few of the things weve writen.

sooooo, i guess if anyone knows how those songs up there can be arranged really really cool..... i got this idea that sounds awesome where i play typical situation and the time i get to the second chourus i got thru it twice, and the thir time around when i get to the Am, i go in to the watchtower intro (Am, G, F)and start a really awesome watchtower

You could also go from typical situations chorus to the breakdown on Raven.

lyrics101 · Unread post by **lyrics101** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:47 am

PLAY ORIGINAL THINGS.

I enjoy the occasional cover, but when I attend open-mic night at a coffee house, or anything at all similar, I expect creativity. Listening to covers simply makes me thing, "Great, you can play and possibly sing, but so can millions of other people. How about showing us your imagination?"

No offense, just my thoughts.

Ryeguy · Unread post by **Ryeguy** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:01 am

yeah, i think that setlist exhausts dave matthews too much.. Some GnR, Nirvana, Ben Harper, Sublime.. i think those are great crowd pleasers.. maybe throw one sweet world, or recently.. i find those are cool to play without lyrics..

CheersDtoT · Unread post by **CheersDtoT** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:25 am

That sounds great... but I would totally agree with everything that has already been said... but I'm going to reiterate on the comments about no vocals. I think it would be a very bad idea to go into a show with no vocals. Because the average person doesn't know good music... and there-for doesn't notice good musican-ship. Anyone can play guitar (in their mind) but also singing is the key to wining your crowd. Trust me... because not only do I play shows ( my own stuff ... no covers) ... but I'm also and audio engineer/ tech. and I have worked many-a-shows... on the F.O.H systems... and I am always in the crowd with the board... you will not get the attention you want unless you sing. I have mixed for jam bands before... and vocalist with guitar gets noticed more often (by the average person). Dave's song are very easy to sing... he is about a two octave singer, most of the time... but their are eceptions. From looking at your set-list it seems that the only songs you would have trouble with singing would be Grey Street .... and Bartender .... which is good... because those songs don't have a very strong guitar section... and are mostly based around vocals. They are very strong vocal songs. I would highly suggest finding some-one to help you with your breathing and singing for the show. It's really not that hard... you also need to learn how to sing into a mic.... which is easy depending on the mic. You might be thinking that you can't do this in such a small time frame.... but trust me I have made shows out of much less... if you have the tallent, which you do based on your set-list, then you will have no problem throwing in vocals. From an audio-engineers point of view... if you want people to reall enjoy your show... make sure you know how to run your sound system... with acoustic guitars you really want a natural sound... I have no idea what kind of equipment you have. Like I said before... the average person doesn't realize good music/ good musicain-ship.... but they do know what sounds like crap.
Here is an idea.... you tell me where you are playing.... the shape of the room.... the material the walls are made out-of.... the tempature.... how many people you are playing with.... How large the room is... how many people can fit in the room... and the equipment you have .... and I will tell you how to make your show MONEY! And if you decide you want to sing (which I hope you do) you will want to buy a good mic, unless you have one..... and also do your guitars have pic-ups. Well sorry for the long response.... but live shows are very complicated... most people think that DMB shows sound good because of the band (which is true to a point), but the real sound comes from the 60 people behind the scenes... who everyone forgets about. Cheers

charliemike · Unread post by **charliemike** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:29 am

I don't see what the big deal is about covers ... When I go to a bar to hang out, I don't want to listen to some hack caterwauling about how his goldfish ate his pet cat or crap like that.

People like covers because they can identify with them and participate.

It's up to the individual, but let's not start hating on covers and acting holier-than-thou about them please.

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:23 pm

is anyone reading what im saying????? i never said that was a setlist, i said its songs we can play by dave, i said in my second post that im doin some phish and moe. and he hes doin some blackbird and whatever he wants, and were doin original stuff,

like phish and will play i dirt and first tube.

hes gonna do blackbird, and some other stuff

also we might play a few of the things weve writen.

cmon guys, read before u post, or else u just seem like u dont no whats goin on

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:13 pm

i'm gonna have to strongly agree what they are saying about no singing, it might not cut it. just give it a try

this is the reason why dave matthews will always be greater than tim reynolds

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:13 pm

i agree with the singing thing, its just tihnk, what would u want, good playing and no vocals, or choppy playing with ok vocals?

btw, just to not worry u all, my band has a singer,this is just a two show thing, other stuff i have a band for with other instruments and a vocalist.

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:55 pm

charliemike wrote:I don't see what the big deal is about covers ... When I go to a bar to hang out, I don't want to listen to some hack caterwauling about how his goldfish ate his pet cat or crap like that.

People like covers because they can identify with them and participate.

It's up to the individual, but let's not start hating on covers and acting holier-than-thou about them please.

I also don't want to see some hack without a shred of originality in their bones. There's a happy medium.

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