What are some of the harder DMB songs?

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:11 am

the thing that you can't do with using a pick is playing these notes only

e-----
B--6--
G-----
D--6--
A-----
E--4--

You have to strum and you get the mutted sound

e--x--
B--6--
G--x--
D--6--
A--x--
E--4--

That is much louder and rougher than the picked version. You can't get a nice soft pick of those notes with a guitar pick. Also, you eventualy are able to pick faster (except for alternate) because you can use more than one finger. You pick the strings without having to even move your hand, just switching fingers. You also can't get that quiet with a pick, but with your fingers, you can actualy make it sound like you are fading out.

rife33 · Unread post by **rife33** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:50 am

The streches in Captain/Crazy and the upstroke picking in Dreams of our Fathers has always been a pain for me.

Davy28 · Unread post by **Davy28** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:22 am

I think SMTS is the hardest. All that fast sliding and stretching really pisses me off.

Granny33 · Unread post by **Granny33** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:53 am

Ranting Thespian wrote:the thing that you can't do with using a pick is playing these notes only

e-----
B--6--
G-----
D--6--
A-----
E--4--

You have to strum and you get the mutted sound

e--x--
B--6--
G--x--
D--6--
A--x--
E--4--

That is much louder and rougher than the picked version. You can't get a nice soft pick of those notes with a guitar pick. Also, you eventualy are able to pick faster (except for alternate) because you can use more than one finger. You pick the strings without having to even move your hand, just switching fingers. You also can't get that quiet with a pick, but with your fingers, you can actualy make it sound like you are fading out.

yea thats true, but i like playing electrics solos and stuff and you're not going to fingerpick on those

. and on like christmas song type things you can use a pick and finger, which i like a lot for some reason lol.

patrickw25 · Unread post by **patrickw25** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:04 am

I think Two Step is totally underrated in terms of difficulty. The chord changes are easy but I find it very difficult to lock into that rhythm, and then when I am locked in, any opening of my mouth to attempt singing totally screws thing up. Also, its one of those songs that I hear alot of people try to play, but very few play well. I guess all in all, the hardest songs for me are those with tricky rhythms, songs like Tripping Billies, or SMTS are easy for me because of the steady rhythm, regardless of the slides or stretches.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:52 am

Granny33 wrote: yea thats true, but i like playing electrics solos and stuff and you're not going to fingerpick on those .

Actualy, even for electric, Timmy most of the time plays without a pick. 80% of the time. When he does use one, like on Stream, he will pick with the fingers not hodling the pick.

Davy28 · Unread post by **Davy28** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:47 pm

I didn't know that. I thought the satellite riffs were the only ones he picked.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:06 pm

If you watch story tellers, you can see timmy put down his pick, and pick it up quite a few times. Also, watch the LIC mpegs, and you can see him use it sometimes, and most of the time he plays with his fingers. David Gray actualy has said how much he is enjoying using his fingers now and not his picks. Babylon actualy is played withouat a pick. If you watch Live @ the Point, you can see him use them on and off too.

Davy28 · Unread post by **Davy28** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:42 am

I like David Grey.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:43 am

I have all 7 albums (even including the EP's collection). I then have the Live @ the Point dvd. He is so great, I wish I would have heard him from A Century's End. Two of my favorite songs of all time is My Oh My and Coming Down.

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:01 am

my oh my gets me everytime. i was dealing with something for quite a long time and it came on in the car and it made me ache. that's my sappy asian moment for you.

Live @ the Point is an incredible dvd. the audience interaction is stunning, especially during the end of This Year's Love and everyone going nuts at the end of Please Forgive Me. so many breathtaking moments to such a raw and passionate artist.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:41 pm

Ranting Thespian wrote:the thing that you can't do with using a pick is playing these notes only

e-----
B--6--
G-----
D--6--
A-----
E--4--

You have to strum and you get the mutted sound

e--x--
B--6--
G--x--
D--6--
A--x--
E--4--

That is much louder and rougher than the picked version. You can't get a nice soft pick of those notes with a guitar pick. Also, you eventualy are able to pick faster (except for alternate) because you can use more than one finger. You pick the strings without having to even move your hand, just switching fingers. You also can't get that quiet with a pick, but with your fingers, you can actualy make it sound like you are fading out.

yeah you just use the pick for the bass note and then use the middle and ring for the other two strings. if you are holding your pick "right" this is rather easy. you can go from strumming like a madman to a chorus of fingerpicking and string slapping. this is an advanced technique (i see in a later post you talk about how tim reynolds does this) but i think it is better than fingerpicking.

when tim reynolds doubled daves part for earlier albums he would use a pick to play the riff and attack it. but in his lead riffs and stuff tim defintely prefferes to use fingers.

The good thing about being self taught, if you sucessfuly do it, you create your own style of singing and playing. That makes you stand out just a little more from most.

Lessons are great, but if you completely rely on them, you start to sound just like the teacher, and some of the originality goes away.

i'm calling bullshit on ya here. lessons will never limit an artists creativity and individuality. that's just an old wives tale. technique and lessons and diversifying styles will never limit you. not learning and not taking lessons (even if informal) will definately limit you.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:20 am

I have played with people who did nothing but take lessons, and they sound just like their teacher (since I know the teacher). Then I play with people who did it like me, like my best friend quinn, he sounds much more original. Again, not some lessons, but when you completely rely on them like the people I know, it does hinder creating your own style, and you take on the teacher's style.

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:03 pm

patrickw25 wrote:I think Two Step is totally underrated in terms of difficulty. The chord changes are easy but I find it very difficult to lock into that rhythm, and then when I am locked in, any opening of my mouth to attempt singing totally screws thing up. Also, its one of those songs that I hear alot of people try to play, but very few play well. I guess all in all, the hardest songs for me are those with tricky rhythms, songs like Tripping Billies, or SMTS are easy for me because of the steady rhythm, regardless of the slides or stretches.

I totally agree. Two Step is one if not THE hardest song to do. if anyone disagrees I want to hear them play it from start to finish. I know Cavecricket does a great job with it, but I havn't heard many do a respectful job of the song including myself. I can't sing that damn song to save my life. Tripping Billies and SMTS I can handle. Even the Stone I can handle, but Two Step is different.

anyway peace.

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 5:23 pm

rife33 wrote:the upstroke picking in Dreams of our Fathers has always been a pain for me.

what part of the song? i never learned more than the verse...

i vote two step as far as singing and playing is concerned....it's not hard to play, but it's hard to make it sound good.

as for other songs, i dont find many that difficult simply because i've played them so many times...Warehouse is one that still gets me...always room for improvement there...

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