Is John Mayer a better guitar player than Dave Matthews?

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:27 am

Yeah, no reason for this to be locked. Anywho, how bout this is the LAST POST, unless some brave soul feels like actually talking about the topic, only to get bashed apart by many people.

subotai · Unread post by **subotai** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:25 pm

Well at least John Mayer has better lyrics.

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:53 pm

subotai · Unread post by **subotai** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:56 pm

What does his sexuality have to do with anything?

subotai · Unread post by **subotai** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:59 pm

Here is part of a Tim Reynolds interview. The line about John Mayer is great.

You last played with DMB in 1998 (when "Live in Chicago" was recorded) and with Dave in winter 1999. Any plans to play with him or the band again?

We may get together to do some acoustic touring sometime in the future. I was contacted last year, by his manager, to do something. But I never heard back, maybe due to 9/11. Dave is the most giving, the sweetest person. He'd be like, "Hey, Timmy, I love what you're doing. Go for it.' "

Do you remember the show in Buffalo on that acoustic tour (in March 1999)? The fans were completely rude, Dave stopped in the middle of "Wild Horses," he told the crowd to shut up?

Yeah, I remember that! Somebody sent me a tape of that show, with Dave yelling at the crowd. I remember thinking, when I go out with my band, I'm going to play really loud and not take any time between songs - go right from one song to the next - to keep everyone quiet. You know, here are these kids with this acoustic show, they're not used to the quiet. I think Dave needed to yell at them. What else could he do?

What do you think of their last few albums?

I know everyone didn't like the album the did with Glen Ballard ("Everyday"), but for me it was cool to hear them do something different. It was really fresh for me.

The Internet is full of rumors that there was a falling out, or that some of the other members of DMB don't want to work with you.

That's so crazy. I could see how that happened, but no way. For one thing, I know he's busy. I'm not going to call him up and say, "Hey Dave, can we do an acoustic tour?" That would be crazy. He's so much bigger now than he was the last time we did the acoustic shows. On my part, it would be a sell-out move, because it's not what I want to do. And I could just sail along into the big time on Dave's name - John Mayer is totally copping that sound and living off that. I've already gotten what I need from working with Dave, spiritually. But I knew I had to go out and do my own work.

dagoba6@aol.com · Unread post by **dagoba6@aol.com** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:41 pm

I can not believe there is 29 pages on this thread, just wanted to add to it.

iddmbfan · Unread post by **iddmbfan** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:28 am

iddmbfan · Unread post by **iddmbfan** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:29 am

What a ridiculous discussion! I can't believe I spent the last 20 minutes reading four pages of this. I especially liked the comment comparing Michael Jordan and Pete Sampras. Let's compare apples to apples here folks. Both Dave and John are guitar playing performers. The bottom line is DMB is a much better "band" than John Mayer. Individually, Dave writes much better lyrics and can combine a subtle marriage of lyrics, guitar, and rhythm than John. In summary, I'm sure Dave could beat the shit out of John in a fight.

violenticecream88 · Unread post by **violenticecream88** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:53 pm

i respect john for what john does, i respect dave for what dave does, its as simple as that

TurnItToLove · Unread post by **TurnItToLove** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:19 pm

The man is such an unmitigated pussy that he makes his mentor, the insufferable Dave Matthews, look like Lemmy from Motorhead. The fact that anyone could seriously sing a song called “Your Body is a Wonderland” in front of actual human beings without getting laughed off the stage is vein-poppingly infuriating.

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1854

teehee

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:32 am

How did this thing get resurected again. Die! Just die already!

Sheesh · Unread post by **Sheesh** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 8:05 am

billywestom wrote:I think in over all guitar playing skill, John has Dave by quite a bit. I haven't heard Dave do a whole lot of improvisation. John has the chord knowledge, fingerpicking technique and percussive effects down perfect. But in melody, soul, feeling, composition, lyrics, overall songs, Dave can't lose.

That just about sums up all of this. John studied music and songwriting at Berkeley for 4 years; Dave did not.

lyrics101 · Unread post by **lyrics101** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:40 pm

True, but Dave's songwriting blows John away, possibly because of experience. Not to mention, you can't beat the influence that Dave's band has on the music; John doesn't have that advantage.

Buck23 · Unread post by **Buck23** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:17 pm

bump (yeah, dickhead move... :wink:

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Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:45 pm

okay, people, stop doing these bump things to be "cute". Peopel are now starting to try to have a convo here and your just a few paiges late here. Sorry, but had to say that, not for bumping purposes. Oh well, John is a much better guitar player then Dave. However, Dave surrounded himself with certain musicians that cause playing lead unnessecary. John however, got supporting players so he can take the spotlight and do his thing. Two different mindsets and two different situations

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