Um, youre not playing that right. Am I an asshole?

[dmfollower]

It seems to me that if your playing someone elses song then there is actually a right and wrong way cause someone wrote it their certain way.
There is a right and wrong way to play dave songs, dave's way and all other ways. Now if you write you own song and want to mix it up then i well, you do what ever you want.
If someone calls you an ass cause you try and show them/tell them that there playing a song wrong, maybe they just don't understand what your trying to say.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Johnny Cash's cover of NIN Hurt was outstanding, I wouldn't say that he played it wrong, he just played it different.

.....and i don't know where i said anything about cover songs. what i was saying was that if someone is playing a dave song and they think they have it right but they don't, i can't see how they can consider you an ass just for stating that they are playing it incorrectly(not like dave plays it)
UNDERSTAND??
if someone were "covering" a song then they would have full right to play it differently, which was not at all close to what i was talking about.
(shit i love wine)

[jsgksu]

so he busts that out, and Im like, yeah it sounds like it, but thats not how you play it. The common response is, you can play a song a lot of different ways. Most of the time Im not an asshole but I always wanna say, yeah, but theres only one right way and your not playing it that way, the right way is harder and sounds a little bit better.

I don't think you are an ass, but if you say it like that, some might think it. You can say this after watching what he plays:

Yeah, that sounds good, it's not the Dave Matthews way, but good. I can show you his way if you want, it's got a bit of a stretch, his chords. Yours still sounds pretty good, has a fullness to it.

Now you sound friendly, get the point across, and just says it in a more pleasing different form.

I dont actually say that, I just say yeah that sounds like it, but its not actuallty the way Dave plays it if you care, normally they dont

that's cool to say, I wouldn't have a problem with that. It sounds like you're trying to help, not trying to make then look like an idiot.

Im deffinatley not trying to make them sound stupid, I just want them to know that theyre not playing it right, it may sound good to them but its not the right way and if they want to know it the right way they should learn it cuz it will sound that much better and make them better.

btw, winglet, that av fucking rocks

[jsgksu]

OK, this has been a controversial topic since I can remember...bottom line is..."Just play it the way it sounds best, period." and I'll tell you that 99.9999999999999999999999999% Dave does it. That's it, the man plays it the best possible way that it can be played. there is really no room for argument as far as I'm concerned. I am OPENLY appreciative of nice things. If someone plays a Dave song better "sounding" than Dave, I'll be the first to admit it. He plays and sings the Maker better than that Daniel whatever could ever play it, so I'll play that song like Dave does. At the same time, if I could play Watchtower like Hendrix could, I'd play it the way Hendrix did, and not the way Dave does.
As for Dave's songs, some clown that thinks he can play a Dave song just by playing the right chords we can all just kinda shrug our shoulders at him because we know what's up if you know what I mean...I'm with you 100% jksgu.

It's like taking a Ferrari or whatever and shaping it to look more like a Mustang...Why fuck with perfection?

We need a thumbs up smiley! good points though

[c_tietze]

I know they can be played different ways but he only knows and is only playing the easy "cheating" way and I can play it the hard right way.

I would tell someone to go f*ck off if they tried to educate me how to not "cheat" and play DMB songs the "hard" way.

There's only one DMB folks! Cover songs are a nice way to learn how to play music, but cover artists and folks who spend most of their time rehashing what has been done before, are in my opinion, severely limiting themselves musically.

I play what I like the way I like it. Anyone who says otherwise, or anyone who says I'm cheating, or not technically accurate needs to pipe down and mind their own business. Seriously.

[jsgksu]

I know they can be played different ways but he only knows and is only playing the easy "cheating" way and I can play it the hard right way.

I would tell someone to go f*ck off if they tried to educate me how to not "cheat" and play DMB songs the "hard" way.

There's only one DMB folks! Cover songs are a nice way to learn how to play music, but cover artists and folks who spend most of their time rehashing what has been done before, are in my opinion, severely limiting themselves musically.

I play what I like the way I like it. Anyone who says otherwise, or anyone who says I'm cheating, or not technically accurate needs to pipe down and mind their own business. Seriously.

Sorry "mon" but dont get lippy Im not telling you to do anything, and like Ive stated at least three times, Im not getting loud, rude or anything with these people. I mearly tell them that its not the way Dave plays it but it sounds similair. They play it in all open chords and obviously dont know about "Dave" chords and whatnot. And if they dont care then whatever. And I know theres only one DMB but if you like his music what the fuck is wrong with learning how to play the songs the way he does, I think someone who just learns all his songs with open chords and doesnt try to learn ohw to play things the more difficult right way are severly limiting themselves musically. Youre not leaning anything new. Play it how you like it, I dont care, but the man plays it a certain way for a reason, you can make it sound how you want, Ill stick with learning his way.

[charliemike]

Sometimes the greatest shit comes when someone takes a song and reinterprets it. That's the beauty of music.

Yes it's cool to see someone play it like Dave does, but if someone took #41 (for example) and played it in a different key or in a different way and it sounded good, I think people would really dig it.

For example ... Take Clapton's original "Layla" and then his acoustic version. If I had been sitting at a bar somewhere and some guy got up and played the acoustic version of it as well as Clapton did but I had never heard Clapton's acoustic version, I'd have thought that was a pretty fucking cool rendition of that song.

Nirvana's "Man that sold the World" was different than Bowie's version but it was still kick-ass.

If it's good, then I'm not as inclined to correct them. Some people can't sing in that key, so they drop it down. They're still playing #41, but just not in the same key that Dave does.

FWIW

[jsgksu]

Im just saying, were sitting around drinking, hes like lemme play a song, he picks it up and plays #41, he plays it wrong, the non-dave way, whatever. And I tell him thats not the way dave plays it, Im just informing him. Thats the only way he knows, cuz he probably learned it from some shitty internet site or something. Hes not reinterpruting (sp?) it in his own way, or making it his own, or covering it in a bar or anything. Were sitting in my living room just passing it around and drinking and just fucking around on guitar, so I just pointed out to him thats not daves way.

[hcole]

It seems to me that if your playing someone elses song then there is actually a right and wrong way cause someone wrote it their certain way.
There is a right and wrong way to play dave songs, dave's way and all other ways. Now if you write you own song and want to mix it up then i well, you do what ever you want.
If someone calls you an ass cause you try and show them/tell them that there playing a song wrong, maybe they just don't understand what your trying to say.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Johnny Cash's cover of NIN Hurt was outstanding, I wouldn't say that he played it wrong, he just played it different.

.....and i don't know where i said anything about cover songs. what i was saying was that if someone is playing a dave song and they think they have it right but they don't, i can't see how they can consider you an ass just for stating that they are playing it incorrectly(not like dave plays it)
UNDERSTAND??
if someone were "covering" a song then they would have full right to play it differently, which was not at all close to what i was talking about.
(shit i love wine)

Maybe you don't read very well or possibly have low comprehension about things you actually type so I'll help you out.

In your previous post you stated

"It seems to me that if your playing someone elses song then there is actually a right and wrong way cause someone wrote it their certain way."

When someone plays a cover song it is actually someone else's song. I thought this was common knowledge, however, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

If you have any problems reading or understanding any of this let me know and I'll type it out including the phonetic spelling of any word over two syllables.

(shit I love idiots)

[Gonzagabulldogs]

when you say top three frets was the guy playing

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Im new to these boards and seems like ya'll are really into this site. But those are the chord formations it lists in the live at luther vol 2 music book. Does this site have something the Cherry Lane Books dont?

This is a great site, glad I came upon it.

[jsgksu]

when you say top three frets was the guy playing

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Im new to these boards and seems like ya'll are really into this site. But those are the chord formations it lists in the live at luther vol 2 music book. Does this site have something the Cherry Lane Books dont?

This is a great site, glad I came upon it.

I dont really know what he was playing, that looks ok, I was drinking and I didnt exactly try to memorize it, but it was around those frets so possibly. As for this sites version, it can be found on the homepage, just scroll over the album covers for a list of songs or in the song drop down menu on the side. Here is a link for the #41 as Dave plays it exactly, on this site: http://www.dmbtabs.com/song.php?sid=27

[taylordb]

Face it Jayme...your an asshole.

(Just kidding you man)

[jsgksu]

Face it Jayme...your an asshole.

(Just kidding you man)

Haha, Thanks, I needed that

[waffle_house_jam]

when you say top three frets was the guy playing

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Im new to these boards and seems like ya'll are really into this site. But those are the chord formations it lists in the live at luther vol 2 music book. Does this site have something the Cherry Lane Books dont?

This is a great site, glad I came upon it.

In my experience those books are correct in that the chords all have the right notes in them. The thing that makes this site different is that the tabs are done by ear and by watching videos, so the tabs are exactly correct. I'd recommend the tabs here over any books.

[c_tietze]

Hey, sorry to come off all raging. I really didn't mean "you" specifically, I know you're just discussing and not instigating. Sorry if you took offense.

I may have been caffeine free when I wrote that rant, "mon".

I feel that music is up to interpretation that's all. It's art, there is no right or wrong way. However, you could say that's not how DAVE plays the song, but I wouldn't say YOU'RE not playing the song right.

Ah, whatever. Lol.

peace,

CJT

[jsgksu]

Hey, sorry to come off all raging. I really didn't mean "you" specifically, I know you're just discussing and not instigating. Sorry if you took offense.

I may have been caffeine free when I wrote that rant, "mon".

I feel that music is up to interpretation that's all. It's art, there is no right or wrong way. However, you could say that's not how DAVE plays the song, but I wouldn't say YOU'RE not playing the song right.

Ah, whatever. Lol.

peace,

CJT

Yeah, I understand, quote stealer! j/k