crash

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:38 pm

Although I started reading music right from the beginning, I also basically learned by ear. I learned piano (my first instrument) via the Suzuki method, in which aural training is very, very important. When you are given a new piece of music to learn, you listen to it first, and then play it. Many people don't really like it as this hurts one's sight reading abilities, but I value the training very much. Sight reading is definitely the weakest part of my musical abilities, but I probably have the best ear of anyone that I know. I do a whole lot more improv stuff on the piano then I do sight reading, so I'm really glad that my aural skills were emphasized when I was younger. That being said, being able to read music is very important, and the theory helps everything make sense, and it's improved me as both a performer and a composer.

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:40 pm

I know their relationships soley on my observasion and deduction (and sometime induction)...but I completely understand the whole two edged sword of theory thing though...

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:46 pm

Riddle me this...I can play along with somebody, and make overlapping (wether it be by different strumming patterns, different solos, or most of the time - by different ways of playing a chord)...

example...if someone is playing an open a (bar the 2nd fret position), i can improv a melody over top on the fly, by switching through a whole mess of different postionings on different frets...ie

for A, i will throw in

E:-----0-------------------0---------
B:-----0------------------10-----------
G:-----6------------------9----------
D:-----7-------or--------7----------
A:-----0------------------0------------
E:------------------------------------

and I can easily whip out these for any other chords on the fly, because I understand...its just not by the same reasons you do...got me? :wink:

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:53 pm

ticohans wrote:Although I started reading music right from the beginning, I also basically learned by ear. I learned piano (my first instrument) via the Suzuki method, in which aural training is very, very important. When you are given a new piece of music to learn, you listen to it first, and then play it. Many people don't really like it as this hurts one's sight reading abilities, but I value the training very much. Sight reading is definitely the weakest part of my musical abilities, but I probably have the best ear of anyone that I know. I do a whole lot more improv stuff on the piano then I do sight reading, so I'm really glad that my aural skills were emphasized when I was younger. That being said, being able to read music is very important, and the theory helps everything make sense, and it's improved me as both a performer and a composer.

yeah, a friend of mine who I went to my college was a music student (fuckin' amazing drummer) once told me of a friend/classmate of his that was a freak of a sight reader - I guess the guy could read like pages ahead of everyone else. That is a fucking skill and a half. but he might not have a good a musical ear as say you tico or fire. Tico, I can tell you have a good ear from your songs. knowing what to play and being able to play it are two different things. I'm still learning, but I learned by ear and theory together sort of. mostely by ear though. I mean playing Dave so much its mostly rhythm anyway which is ALL practice. Rhythm is my current girlfriend

she carries a lot of baggage though :shock:

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:02 pm

Ahh, but I do understand completely, because that is what I used to do, fire. While I've always been able to read music, reading music is not music theory. It's required for theory, but it has nothing to do with the theory itself. It was only my senior year of highschool that I really started any theory, and that was only a half way job of it. Once I started college I really began theory stuff in earnest. I've gone through all of the theory here at Davidson, and learned to do all sorts of crazy stuff.

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:07 pm

ticohans wrote:Ahh, but I do understand completely, because that is what I used to do, fire. While I've always been able to read music, reading music is not music theory. It's required for theory, but it has nothing to do with the theory itself. It was only my senior year of highschool that I really started any theory, and that was only a half way job of it. Once I started college I really began theory stuff in earnest. I've gone through all of the theory here at Davidson, and learned to do all sorts of crazy stuff.

Thats cool Tico...

I guess that we are all examples of different backrounds but we do share a love for the music :wink:

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:10 pm

wow...just doing my homework and listening to tunes...

...although I have heard this song and loved it for almost a decade now (my dad got me into RUSH a long while back), but Freewill is and awesome song...so is the Rush tune "YYZ"...now take that song to the theory bank why don't ya :wink:

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:18 pm

firedancer86 wrote:wow...just doing my homework and listening to tunes...

...although I have heard this song and loved it for almost a decade now (my dad got me into RUSH a long while back), but Freewill is and awesome song...so is the Rush tune "YYZ"...now take that song to the theory bank why don't ya

And they're Canadian.... :lol:

I know it's of no importance but oh well...they're Canadian.

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:26 pm

well i always knew GEDDY was, but lifeson and pert (who can take carter) are Canadian also?

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:29 pm

firedancer86 wrote:well i always knew GEDDY was, but lifeson and pert (who can take carter) are Canadian also?

all i know is they are canada's #1 selling band....ever....i would guess they are all canadian...although i could be wrong

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:39 pm

Cave, go right now and dl the RUSH song "YYZ"...it will blow your mind, i promise!

YOU TOO GRAVE!

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:44 pm

firedancer86 wrote:Cave, go right now and dl the RUSH song "YYZ"...it will blow your mind, i promise!

YOU TOO GRAVE!

no speakers here on my parents computer

it sux ass

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:47 pm

gravedigger wrote:
firedancer86 wrote:Cave, go right now and dl the RUSH song "YYZ"...it will blow your mind, i promise!

YOU TOO GRAVE!
no speakers here on my parents computer it sux ass

aggghhh...say Grave, when will you be able to in the future?

ryopan · Unread post by **ryopan** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:48 pm

well, ill just jump in here. i cringe when i think about having to learn theory. i know the bare minimum but i do want to make myself better in knowing how it all goes together. also, im teaching myself piano (just started) so im getting into it finally. for those that would know, does dave seem to have a prefered key? i dont really need to know, just curious.
ryan

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:54 pm

ryopan wrote:well, ill just jump in here. i cringe when i think about having to learn theory. i know the bare minimum but i do want to make myself better in knowing how it all goes together. also, im teaching myself piano (just started) so im getting into it finally. for those that would know, does dave seem to have a prefered key? i dont really need to know, just curious.
ryan

Alot of basics are out of D...E is always natural for me...but as for Dave, he gets around...

DMBTabs.com

crash

Who is online