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by MWR » Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:53 pm
Verse: Em
Chorus: C
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by ForksonKnives » Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:13 pm
anyone know of any online lessons to help me figure out how to find keys? I have musical background but I get confused with this and no one will explain it to me properly. A lot of people have told me that same 'first or last chord' bullshit, but that doesnt work. Any help on this process?
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by justinandimcool » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:30 am
MWR wrote:SpoonInSpoon wrote:Buck23 wrote:to say we don't know what we're talking about and then say that the stone is in F major, and that halloween is in C major is just...wow man, you are full of yourself. you said you took theory?
i don't take theory, but i know it. if the key signature on a song has no flats or sharps, its in the key of c. halloween does some funky out of key stuff though, like the E chord.
the Key of C:
C
Dm
Em
G
Am
Bm
C
the last flat in a key signature is Fa. the last sharp in a key signature is Ti. go from there. i check key signatures the way nearly all vocalists do. i'm not full of myself. i never said you guys don't know what you were talking about (to the best of my memory)
I don't think any of this post made any sort of sense, particularly the last paragraph... what is Fa and Ti?
Ummm you got some more studying to do. If a key signature has no sharps or flats it's not automaticaly in C. No sharps or flats could imply any one of the following and many more DEPENDING on what the harmony and tonal center is:
C Ionian(major)
D Dorian
E Phrygian
F Lydian
G Mixolydian
A Aeolian (minor)
B Locrian
and a slew of pentatonic scales.
I assume you know that these are called modes. Although each of these have the same notes if you stack thirds to build harmony from the scale you'll notice how different they are.
Of course Dave's music is major or minor 90% of the time but there are some exceptions.
Anyway it took me years to really internalize this stuff and it's a little frustrating to have someone who obviously doesn't grasp it proclaim themselves a key signature know-it-all. Feel free to PM me if you really want to know what your talking about.

I know it's a year later, but I just had a question. What chronological order should I learn all the info from the quoted post? Any links to any places that elaborate on modes and harmonies and such?
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by i-am-me » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:36 am
MWR wrote:Verse: Em
Chorus: C
C?? isn't it G? C doesn't sound right to me. but i suck...lol.
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by MWR » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:16 pm
i-am-me wrote:MWR wrote:Verse: Em
Chorus: C
C?? isn't it G? C doesn't sound right to me. but i suck...lol.
That's an F in the chorus not a F#. It could potentially be a G Mixolydian progression but the G is a suspended second so there's no resolution whatsoever.
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by mlb1399 » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:43 am
Just wondering. Is Fool to Think in D major? 2 sharps=Dmaj?
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by Sciaracastro » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:23 pm
i found the link for this in another thread, so i'll bump it (anyway i think this is very helpful and should be sticked)
mlb1399 wrote:Just wondering. Is Fool to Think in D major? 2 sharps=Dmaj?
i was about to post the same thing: isnt FTT in D?
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by Fish » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:26 pm
halloween - F
IDI - Thinking D for verse and A for chorus
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by fede » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:34 pm
I think fool to think is in E....
I might be wrong though. Especially because he finishes on a D.
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by taparoo » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:10 am
SimsUK wrote:It would be weird for a song in E to finish on the minor seventh of the scale.
It could still 'work', though.
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by fede » Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:31 pm
He DOES end in a Dsus2, so it's impossible to tell whether if it's a Minor or a major chord. The verse IS in E...that's for sure.
LIOG ends on an A chord but it's undoubtably in D.
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by Nuladion » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:09 pm
Any help on what key dancing nancies is in?
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