Stay or Leave

reis-a-roni · Unread post by **reis-a-roni** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:00 pm

First of all the new album is growing on me very quickly. I play acoustic and have always preferred Dave and Tim a bit over the entire Band, though the Band is very good. :?:

Anyway, about Stay or Leave. On the surface the song is about a woman leaving him. But Dave is married and probably past his days of writing about heartbreaks. Might it instead be about him going his own way?

"Everyone wanted to be you and me" : the band's popularity

"Did I do all that I could have done?" : Where should I have led the band?

"What to do with the rest of the day's afternoon?" : what do I do now?

"hey isn't it strange how we change everything we played "

Just a thought. Would love to know if anyone else got the same vibe.

seth_southerland · Unread post by **seth_southerland** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:05 pm

dude, you are going to freak people out with talk like that

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:08 pm

yeah you can interpret some lines to mean that but overall I think its just a love song.

reis-a-roni · Unread post by **reis-a-roni** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:10 pm

I did not mean that he is leaving the band, more that he is branching out on his own, TOO.

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:12 pm

ah. good point. He's definately branching out and changing his style slightly but it's all good.

GreedylilPig · Unread post by **GreedylilPig** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:18 pm

reis-a-roni wrote:
Just a thought. Would love to know if anyone else got the same vibe.

Quite interesting. I respect your opinion, but no, I highly doubt that Stay Or Leave pertains to anything about Dave's relationship with the band. Granted, you've made a case with what you've quoted from the song, but look at the rest of it: "We used to laugh under the covers, maybe not so often now..." I certainly hope this doesn't relate to Dave's relationship with the band.

But, like I said, interesting, nonetheless and it's good to see more people being contemplative about the music.

reis-a-roni · Unread post by **reis-a-roni** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:26 pm

Thanks for the reply. Well clearly not every line can be interpreted literally. There are going to be metaphors. Waking up naked and laughing could relate the band's birth and all the good times that followed. I'm not saying I'm right but that is what I dig from the song.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:33 pm

reis-a-roni wrote:Thanks for the reply. Well clearly not every line can be interpreted literally. There are going to be metaphors. Waking up naked and laughing could relate the band's birth and all the good times that followed. I'm not saying I'm right but that is what I dig from the song.

i've kinda been tossing ideas around that this may be what the song is about. i think the relationshiip with a bandmate can very closely ressemble a love relationship.

in some ways it is much deeper. and i can see how you can use metaphor. like "wake up naked"="start out very raw and new", like in the beginning.

and metaphor is never perfect representation. i wrote a song about how the word "awesomer" is not a word, but that was hardly the point of the song.

maybe it is about the old way the band was. or something. i agree that it bears a lot of metaphor to the band.

seth_southerland · Unread post by **seth_southerland** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:56 pm

you guys think too much

reis-a-roni · Unread post by **reis-a-roni** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:59 pm

Maybe so. I don't often think enough about what songs mean. Once in a while I'll realize I've kown the lyrics and sung along with a song forever and never realized what it meant. It's a cool revelation when you do suddenly realize the point the artist is making, though there is a lot to be said for just being happy humming the tune.

You're Crazy · Unread post by **You're Crazy** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 3:17 pm

reis-a-roni wrote:First of all the new album is growing on me very quickly. I play acoustic and have always preferred Dave and Tim a bit over the entire Band, though the Band is very good.

Anyway, about Stay or Leave. On the surface the song is about a woman leaving him. But Dave is married and probably past his days of writing about heartbreaks. Might it instead be about him going his own way?

"Everyone wanted to be you and me" : the band's popularity

"Did I do all that I could have done?" : Where should I have led the band?

"What to do with the rest of the day's afternoon?" : what do I do now?

"hey isn't it strange how we change everything we played "

Just a thought. Would love to know if anyone else got the same vibe.

YOU'RE CRAZY!!!

NoNotThat · Unread post by **NoNotThat** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 3:22 pm

the band laughed under the covers

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 3:30 pm

reis-eroni,

I know what you mean about liking songs and having no idea what the lyrics are or what they mean and then when you start thinking about them and discover a meaning, it makes the song that much more special and good. Dave uses a lot of metaphor but who knows what underlies the metaphors. I just like the song and love the feeling it gives out. kindofa yearning for what you've lost and that you'll never have again. perhaps the way the band was in the early years!!!!

borocks · Unread post by **borocks** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:04 pm

To be honest, I never really think about Dave's lyrics. I've never tried to interpret some songs line by line. Maybe it's cause I'm too lazy to translate it or maybe it's just because there might be not that much to interpret...

reis-a-roni · Unread post by **reis-a-roni** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:31 pm

To be honest I did not try to interpret the song. It just hit me. I did not sit down and try to decode it. It just occurred to me that the song might be about the band. I think many of his songs are fairly deep, but he does write a bit cryptically so you sometimes need to take a step back and think about what he might be saying. As I said his music is a blast to listen to but there might be something deeper for you if you take a step back.

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