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mangina205 · Unread post by **mangina205** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:47 am

Does anyone else feel that for the most part, the difficulty of Dave's songs isn't what it used to be? For instance the early stuff, the Stone, Rhyme and Reason, Live intro to OSW, BOWA, Trippin Billies, #41, and his big stretches and stuff isn't really there on this later stuff, Busted Stuff, SOme Devil etc. I am saying for the most part here so don't get all crazy. Just curious.

gravesRR7 · Unread post by **gravesRR7** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:46 am

yeah it seems like that. i like playing the older stuff better, but now it seems like Dave is concentrating more on lyrics that whoop-ass guitar, which is good, just different

mangina205 · Unread post by **mangina205** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:15 am

I wish he would get back to that older style a little more, now he uses alot more open positoin chords, rather than his weird, well you know his chords!

ryopan · Unread post by **ryopan** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:58 am

i hear yall. his focus now is on song writing. now, he had great lyrics for alot of his older stuff, but his newer stuff is pretty much a lyrics showcase. old=greater guitar, new= greater lyrics.
i know there are some exceptions (seekup, you never know etc) but this is a general trend which im pretty much ok w/ i guess. what would you say? exactly

mastermindmatthews3436 · Unread post by **mastermindmatthews3436** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:57 pm

i agree its ok btu his albums lack any hard jamming liek they do in the old days, anyone agree? no more liek ants or wwys or anythign in the jamming matter, i just think the lyrics is goin olmost too far with dave to where the band is not as hype as they once were

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:16 pm

mangina205 wrote:Does anyone else feel that for the most part, the difficulty of Dave's songs isn't what it used to be? For instance the early stuff, the Stone, Rhyme and Reason, Live intro to OSW, BOWA, Trippin Billies, #41, and his big stretches and stuff isn't really there on this later stuff, Busted Stuff, SOme Devil etc. I am saying for the most part here so don't get all crazy. Just curious.

i agree man, his songwriting isn't what it used to be sadly...

mbgreen · Unread post by **mbgreen** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm

I'll say it. His guitar riffs suck now. I havent bought an album since BTCS.

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:27 pm

mbgreen wrote:I'll say it. His guitar riffs suck now. I havent bought an album since BTCS.

ouch, thats a little rough... Not about guitar, but about not buying albums, you're missing out.

mbgreen · Unread post by **mbgreen** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:32 pm

BigSpeen3436 wrote:
mbgreen wrote:I'll say it. His guitar riffs suck now. I havent bought an album since BTCS.
ouch, thats a little rough... Not about guitar, but about not buying albums, you're missing out.

I didnt say I hadnt heard them. I just havent thought they were worth the money to be honest. I have over 80 live shows (though most of them are pre 1999,) so I wouldnt exactly say I'm missing out on anything.

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:00 pm

BigSpeen3436 wrote:you're missing out.

i disagrree

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:03 pm

are you surre?

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:05 pm

BigSpeen3436 wrote:are you surre?

yep... jujst personal tastte i guess.. i also didnt like some devil

but lets not get into it

chosta · Unread post by **chosta** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:19 pm

i also didnt like some devil

but lets not get into it

wiser words i have not heard

but i like most of it

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:56 pm

Some Devil, Gravedigger, Baby, Stay or Leave. That's about all I like from that album. Which is unfortunately not a lot for a whole album. I still disagree in general about his song writing though. A lot of my distaste for his studio work is in the production. Even Lillywhite didn't know when to leave it alone. I think most studio albums are over-done these days. The best done DMB album production-wise is a tie between BTCS and LS. Thats my opinion anyway.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:02 pm

I loved some devil, and I love busted stuff, and yes, I love everyday. Also, dmb albums have such a different sound than live. Both are great, I think. I also love the song Grey Blue Eyes, simple, experimental, and I love it. I say his writing is as good as it used to be, he just has a different style. Also, the band still plays the old stuff as well as the new stuff. I love them as much as I did when I finally noticed the band in 1996.

So, I love old dmb, and I love new dmb.

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