Big Eyed Fish tab, something a little more accurate

[SaxMan123]

...he's playing on a 12 string...you know that right?

Doesnt sound like it to me but you are probably right, maybe I will give it a whirl on my 12 string and see if it sounds much different. Really you can never tell what guitar Dave is playing sometimes, I didnt know Grey Street was on a 12 string until I saw him play it live. He makes a 6 and a 12 sound so similar unlike what you hear in a song like Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd where you can clearly hear the octaves, Dave doesnt do that.

[SaxMan123]

thanks for taking the time to contribute. but i'm pretty sure that the tab on DMBtabs is correct. you added the hight E string basically is the only difference, and some vibratos.

dave does not play that high E string as far as i know. when you watch him play the song he uses his index and pinkey fingers to play the two strings, and therefore it would be pretty hard to hit the high E string.


i don't mean to bash the tab or anything. like i said, thanks for contributing, i just don't think this is the way DAVE plays it, which is what is on the main site here


anyone else?

Well I listened to the song and on the verse phrase, I believe in the first two bars Dave doesnt play the high E string but in the 3rd bar he does and through out the rest of the song. No offense unless you are deaf you cant miss him hitting the high E string on that phrase other than right at the beginning.

Just so you know, youre tabbing by ear on a studio version. Theres a lot going on, second guitar parts, boyd picking, just a bunch of different noises. Kanter tabs these songs by in concert videos of Dave actually playing these songs live.

I know what he tabs is mainly live and I am sorry for stating that his was wrong because I was too stupid to realize that he wasnt doing studio tabs. Anyway what Dave does live is totally different from studio versions but at least now there is a studio tab available for anyone who wants to learn the original instead of a live version. I am also fully aware now that Dave waters down his rhythms live because hardly anyone can play rhythms like him and sing at the same time.

[dmbguitar718]

...he's playing on a 12 string...you know that right?

Doesnt sound like it to me but you are probably right, maybe I will give it a whirl on my 12 string and see if it sounds much different. Really you can never tell what guitar Dave is playing sometimes, I didnt know Grey Street was on a 12 string until I saw him play it live. He makes a 6 and a 12 sound so similar unlike what you hear in a song like Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd where you can clearly hear the octaves, Dave doesnt do that.

he's undeniably using a 12 string guitar on the studio version. you can clearly hear the octaves.

[dmbguitar718]

thanks for taking the time to contribute. but i'm pretty sure that the tab on DMBtabs is correct. you added the hight E string basically is the only difference, and some vibratos.

dave does not play that high E string as far as i know. when you watch him play the song he uses his index and pinkey fingers to play the two strings, and therefore it would be pretty hard to hit the high E string.


i don't mean to bash the tab or anything. like i said, thanks for contributing, i just don't think this is the way DAVE plays it, which is what is on the main site here


anyone else?

Well I listened to the song and on the verse phrase, I believe in the first two bars Dave doesnt play the high E string but in the 3rd bar he does and through out the rest of the song. No offense unless you are deaf you cant miss him hitting the high E string on that phrase other than right at the beginning.

Just so you know, youre tabbing by ear on a studio version. Theres a lot going on, second guitar parts, boyd picking, just a bunch of different noises. Kanter tabs these songs by in concert videos of Dave actually playing these songs live.

I know what he tabs is mainly live and I am sorry for stating that his was wrong because I was too stupid to realize that he wasnt doing studio tabs. Anyway what Dave does live is totally different from studio versions but at least now there is a studio tab available for anyone who wants to learn the original instead of a live version. I am also fully aware now that Dave waters down his rhythms live because hardly anyone can play rhythms like him and sing at the same time.

listen to more artists, plenty of people play more complex rhythms and sing at the same time.

[Coldchillin]

Yeah. It's definitely not that bad with practice. The Dave songs that give me trouble to play and sing (simultaneously) without a drummer are Fool To Think and Dreams Of Our Fathers.

[SaxMan123]

thanks for taking the time to contribute. but i'm pretty sure that the tab on DMBtabs is correct. you added the hight E string basically is the only difference, and some vibratos.

dave does not play that high E string as far as i know. when you watch him play the song he uses his index and pinkey fingers to play the two strings, and therefore it would be pretty hard to hit the high E string.


i don't mean to bash the tab or anything. like i said, thanks for contributing, i just don't think this is the way DAVE plays it, which is what is on the main site here


anyone else?

Well I listened to the song and on the verse phrase, I believe in the first two bars Dave doesnt play the high E string but in the 3rd bar he does and through out the rest of the song. No offense unless you are deaf you cant miss him hitting the high E string on that phrase other than right at the beginning.

Just so you know, youre tabbing by ear on a studio version. Theres a lot going on, second guitar parts, boyd picking, just a bunch of different noises. Kanter tabs these songs by in concert videos of Dave actually playing these songs live.

I know what he tabs is mainly live and I am sorry for stating that his was wrong because I was too stupid to realize that he wasnt doing studio tabs. Anyway what Dave does live is totally different from studio versions but at least now there is a studio tab available for anyone who wants to learn the original instead of a live version. I am also fully aware now that Dave waters down his rhythms live because hardly anyone can play rhythms like him and sing at the same time.

listen to more artists, plenty of people play more complex rhythms and sing at the same time.

No kidding, I dont just listen to DMB ya know sheesh

[SaxMan123]

Yeah. It's definitely not that bad with practice. The Dave songs that give me trouble to play and sing (simultaneously) without a drummer are Fool To Think and Dreams Of Our Fathers.

I'm trying to pull off Where are You Going or Crash Into Me but they are both extremely hard to do if you dont play a live version cause the rhythms Dave sings and plays are two total opposites.

[Coldchillin]

I learn the guitar part until I can read and talk without messing it up. Singing it becomes much easier when playing it is second nature.

[WarEagle_007]

This tab is completly wrong. The one Kanter has up on the site is 100 percent right.

Its not completely wrong, and you are wrong by saying that. That tab is right if you want to paly the song a different way. And theres nothing wrong with doing that. Its just a different interpretation of the song. Now its not what Dave plays, but that doesnt mean its wrong. And dont take this as me calling you out or anything, Im just saying that his tab isnt completely wrong.

Um ok. Then according to you, every tab for every song ever created by a person is correct since it just their interpretaion

[tommymal]

I have only been playing for about a year so I am no expert, but shouldn't the tabs on this site be set up for a six string as that is what 99% of the members of this site play?
I always heard those single notes when listening to the studio version of Big Eyed Fish and I was always confused that this was not shown on Kanters tab. On the twelve string those single notes are "octaves" but on a six string one does not get the same sort of sound so I think you have to actually play the individual note to mimic the octaves created by the twelve string.
Regardless, I think the spirit of DMB's sound is in variety and how throughout his songs he is always throwing in slight variations. I think the band tries to intentionally create a sort of "Jam" atmosphere where the music is unscripted. Every concert I go to, he seems to tweak the rythm (i.e. Crash). My point, we should mix variety throughout all DMB songs (accept maybe the main riffs in songs like #34 and satalite). Playing the Big Eyed verse the same way the entire song seems to be too technical and lacks the creativity with which I believe Dave plays with.
Sorry if I am way off on this?

[brian_ok]

I have only been playing for about a year so I am no expert, but shouldn't the tabs on this site be set up for a six string as that is what 99% of the members of this site play?
I always heard those single notes when listening to the studio version of Big Eyed Fish and I was always confused that this was not shown on Kanters tab. On the twelve string those single notes are "octaves" but on a six string one does not get the same sort of sound so I think you have to actually play the individual note to mimic the octaves created by the twelve string.
Regardless, I think the spirit of DMB's sound is in variety and how throughout his songs he is always throwing in slight variations. I think the band tries to intentionally create a sort of "Jam" atmosphere where the music is unscripted. Every concert I go to, he seems to tweak the rythm (i.e. Crash). My point, we should mix variety throughout all DMB songs (accept maybe the main riffs in songs like #34 and satalite). Playing the Big Eyed verse the same way the entire song seems to be too technical and lacks the creativity with which I believe Dave plays with.
Sorry if I am way off on this?

I know what you're saying with the 12 string v. 6 string, but, in a tab, I look for as close a transposition as possible of the actual song, rather than someone's interpretation of it. It is very easy to adapt a song played on a 12 string for a 6 string, or vice versa for the most part.

As for the variety, that should be left up to the individual. I would rather see a barebones tab and be able to create the variety myself, then see a tab with the 'variety' transcribed for me. Also, a lot of that variety is rhythmic, and therefore is difficult to express in tab form.

[J_Clark]

This tab is completly wrong. The one Kanter has up on the site is 100 percent right.

Its not completely wrong, and you are wrong by saying that. That tab is right if you want to paly the song a different way. And theres nothing wrong with doing that. Its just a different interpretation of the song. Now its not what Dave plays, but that doesnt mean its wrong. And dont take this as me calling you out or anything, Im just saying that his tab isnt completely wrong.

yea. hey maybe this might be a pretty cool cover for the song? with a little different beat to it? i dont know, but thanks for the contributuion.