Don't say it's easy

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:38 am

theyre all easy :wink:

borocks · Unread post by **borocks** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:41 am

I really agree that Dave songs are NOT easy to play. that doesn't say that I got no problems with them. I'm just saying that you need more than just some avarage ability to play them. Man, I play tons of other songs and most of them consist of open chords, power chords and maybe barré chords and that's it!
The Dave style is definitly more than just easy. We guys hanging around in these boards are just that good because we're all nuts about Dave's songs... I think that'll be the reason for some other opinions in this topic.

Take punk music for instance, some bands are playing the same fingering (power chord) not just over a whole song but over the whole album... Man, that is easy to play.
I tought a friend of mine, who just started playing, the verse part of Outside by Staind. It's just the same fingering all through the riff. He hardly managed to do what I told him.
And that might sound kinda arrogant to you, but in this moment I realized that I was a good player.

I think we're all good.
There's so much bad guitarists out there.
Dave's songs are not easy.
If you think it's easy to play the verse of Billies and sing at the same time... then you're REALLY good...

That's it, Peace, Bo

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:43 am

borocks wrote:There's so much bad guitarists out there.

which is why i prefer guitarless music

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:58 am

borocks wrote:I really agree that Dave songs are NOT easy to play. that doesn't say that I got no problems with them. I'm just saying that you need more than just some avarage ability to play them. Man, I play tons of other songs and most of them consist of open chords, power chords and maybe barré chords and that's it!
The Dave style is definitly more than just easy. We guys hanging around in these boards are just that good because we're all nuts about Dave's songs... I think that'll be the reason for some other opinions in this topic.

Take punk music for instance, some bands are playing the same fingering (power chord) not just over a whole song but over the whole album... Man, that is easy to play.
I tought a friend of mine, who just started playing, the verse part of Outside by Staind. It's just the same fingering all through the riff. He hardly managed to do what I told him.
And that might sound kinda arrogant to you, but in this moment I realized that I was a good player.

I think we're all good.
There's so much bad guitarists out there.
Dave's songs are not easy.
If you think it's easy to play the verse of Billies and sing at the same time... then you're REALLY good...

That's it, Peace, Bo

yea.. i agree with you to some extent

im pretty good.. but then i hear timmy and i just want to quit playing alltogether
its all relative

moosicmaniac · Unread post by **moosicmaniac** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:04 am

Halloween and Blue Water have to be the "easiest" Dave songs

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:17 am

Guitar One wrote:Well, I read the "Hardest Dave Songs" thread, and I couldn't help but notice some people calling certain Dave songs "easy". That's like a black belt saying a double roundhouse kick is easy. No Dave song is easy (perhaps with the exception of Typical Situation, and even then, singing to it is rather tough). Especially when I read some people saying the Tripping Billies verse is easy. Yeah, easy after loads of practicing!! That riff is just ridiculous, and even more difficult to sing along to.
Just try and remember, ease is not relative.

You're absolutely right. They're not "easy". don't let that get to ya. I used to be bothered by people saying Dave songs are easy but when I heard them actually play them and saw how bad they were, it made me feel a little better. ok sure the Proudest Monkey riff is pretty easy but singing along to it is a different story.

peace.

JJTownsend · Unread post by **JJTownsend** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:21 am

I'm just working on playing in general. How about good starter songs. Ones that are great to start off if I'm new to playing Dave...pretty new to guitar in general. Though the drive for learning some good Dave is strong.

isaac · Unread post by **isaac** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:22 am

check your original thread. i posted more links.

mbgreen · Unread post by **mbgreen** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:47 pm

At least half the people who post that certain songs are easy dont play them right. I've seen it on these boards a lot...not so much in the present as back when people first started to post covers. Some weiner would comment on how easy a song was, then post something that sounded like poo. Missing the mutes, bad rythm, whatever. So dont listen to what everyone else has to say. Odds are theyre full of shit.

KevinGTArch · Unread post by **KevinGTArch** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:23 pm

Man, when I first started learning Dave's songs it was one of the most frustrating paths I went down in learning to play the guitar. However, 3-4 years later, picking up a new Dave song is as easy as say....picking your nose. Ok, bad analogies aside, there's one key to remember when tackling Dave's songs - when you're learning each song pay heavy attention to the style(s) he uses. It's amazing how many of his songs are re-organizations or re-structurings of previous music he's done. Once you've gotten a hold of his style his music is a piece of cake. I learned half of Some Devil before it even hit the shelves - his style is just THAT consistent.

I'll also second the stories of people claiming "easy" Dave songs who can't play them worth a damn. A friend of mine and I were playing Grey Street when we tailgated before the DMB show in Atlanta and people were amazed that we played it the "right" way. In my opinion, what other way is there to play it?

Aside from that, remember that repitition makes practice, devotion makes repitition, and thus devotion make perfection.

KB

PS> Kill Bill ROCKS. Go see it NOW!

everydayDMBfan_18 · Unread post by **everydayDMBfan_18** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 5:28 pm

yea, at first they were hard, but 3-4 years? damn that's a long time...

KevinGTArch · Unread post by **KevinGTArch** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:52 pm

Well I guess 3-4 years is a bit of an exaggeration. In that time I've gotten to the point where, for example, I saw Dave on his Some Devil MTV appearance. Then I turned around, without tab, I played exactly what I saw and was able to sing with it.

I would say it really only took me a year or two to master his guitar style alone. The singing along was what added the extra couple of years.

It really only takes a few months, if you practice hard, to really get some of his harder songs down to the point where you feel really good about them.

No fear, it seems really hard and impossible at first but it is just like riding a bike. Once you figure out how it works, it's really really easy.

KB

DMBFan63 · Unread post by **DMBFan63** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 10:49 pm

I know was talking to this kid in school that absolutely sucks at guitar.. he plays easy metal riffs.. and he goes"yea, but dave matthews is just basic chords.. like a G, Em, A. Over and over" then when i showed him the RIGHT way.. he was like"okay, so i'm wrong.. his stuff is pretty complicated.."

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:24 am

try Mother's Night. I think most any guitar player can get that one

. Also, DDTW is pretty easy. Bartender is too.

waffle_house_jam · Unread post by **waffle_house_jam** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:11 am

HendrixWS wrote:I find Crash hard to sing and play to. I dont think Dave songs are easy it all depends where your coming from on experience if all youve ever played before is Metallica then good luck cause your gonna need it. I myself started on Dave and am still Having trouble playing stuff granted that I dont take lessons and I've only played for 6 months. I can get down some of the tough ones but Billies is still a goal for me...

Agreed that it really depends where you're coming from, but oddly enough, my guitar playing started with Metallica. Actually, I think their music is pretty good practice for lots of styles.
As for me, I found that once I developed the muting/playing style that works with Dave's music, it came pretty easily. Not to say I don't have trouble with any of it, but I can play most of it easily. Also I think starting on Dave's music would be great, it really emphasizes style.

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