hardest song to play

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:29 pm

jsgksu wrote:
mdmt619 wrote:i think the hardest song is either satellite or the best of whats around. I can do them both a few times, but not the whole song. I really didnt think tripping billies or the stone were that hard, they just kinda clicked one day!
I dont think billies or stone are to bad either but whats hard about BOWA, that songs easy as hell, especially if you can play those other two.

I disagree that BOWA is easy as hell, and Billies and the Stone are probably up there as the hardest Dave songs to play. BOWA takes awhile to get down, especially if you want it to sound as good as Dave.

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:43 pm

gravedigger wrote:I disagree that BOWA is easy as hell, and Billies and the Stone are probably up there as the hardest Dave songs to play. BOWA takes awhile to get down, especially if you want it to sound as good as Dave.

Alright, its not easy as hell but I think its a lot easier then Billies, Stone, Warehouse and a few others. There is no hard stretches and the muting isnt that hard. I think its fairly easy compared to some his songs, though harder than others too. I just dont understand why the original poster of this subject said he couldnt finish it or satellite all the way. Like BOWA was a real strain or something. Anyways, no big deal, forget it, I just dont think its to hard a song to play IMO.

DT · Unread post by DT » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:04 am

finally, someone mentioned warehouse... not the hardest but still damn hard, it finally clicked for me today, still sounds a little messy but its a hell of a lot better than it used to be- once you get a feel for the muting its easy... i'm not good enough to even try all of the stone, or the billies verse, so i have no real opinion on what the hardest song is

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:39 am

i cant get teh muting down on warehouse... it sounds so cool but its so hard

4mbi3nt · Unread post by **4mbi3nt** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 1:33 pm

shane wrote:i cant get teh muting down on warehouse... it sounds so cool but its so hard

A trick or method rather i use. When playing the 7-9-11 (that was hard for me to mute at first) be sure to use finger 1-2-4 and think of the motion as if you're pivioting your wrist. That is pivioting with the same left hand formation. It also helps me to keep my left hand as flat against the neck as possible, i.e. as if you were making a 90 degree angle with your fingers. Don't know if that helps at all.

My vote goes for Crazy/Captin.

canuck_dmb · Unread post by **canuck_dmb** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:53 am

jsgksu wrote:
gravedigger wrote:I disagree that BOWA is easy as hell, and Billies and the Stone are probably up there as the hardest Dave songs to play. BOWA takes awhile to get down, especially if you want it to sound as good as Dave.
Alright, its not easy as hell but I think its a lot easier then Billies, Stone, Warehouse and a few others. There is no hard stretches and the muting isnt that hard. I think its fairly easy compared to some his songs, though harder than others too. I just dont understand why the original poster of this subject said he couldnt finish it or satellite all the way. Like BOWA was a real strain or something. Anyways, no big deal, forget it, I just dont think its to hard a song to play IMO.

CheersDtoT · Unread post by **CheersDtoT** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:17 am

I think all of Dave's songs are easy...... they really don't put up a fight whne I play them ..... I just do it. I know some of you know what I'm talking about...... but there are other songs out there that are harder than Dave's songs. The key with Dave's songs is that you keep strumming .... even during picking parts you strum..... It's a sort of BlueGrass style of playing ..... Dave learned alot of it from Tim and John D Earth ( who he wrote alot of his famous songs with ) thats why if you watch Dave play a song like the Stone he is constantly strumming ..... I can't stand it when I watch people play it and they pick it ..... because the song isn't ment to flow like that ...... same with TB...Ants....WWYS...Warehouse (warehouse is the one that takes the most master skills, make sure you have the stumm/picking down before playing that one). But for you guys who are looking for more of a challenge try some TR stuff....... that will kick your ass for a few days .... the fingerpicking songs are mostly pretty easy....(but there are some songs that I know that none of you can play! They are way to MindFucking) ..... but TR has real great fast songs ...like Doom, Mercy Street, and Stream ..... Doom is pretty easy, just have to keep the beat ...... Mercy Street you need a DD-5 for the opening bass slap and riff pluck part, and also for the bridge part (so if you have a DD-5 check it out !!! Real FUN ) Stream .... is easy ... I don't know why people freek out on that song ... it's really not that hard ... if you can play fast and have the dexterity to move your fingers in different riff partters exstreme fast then you are good!!! I don't want to sound like I'm cocky at all...... I was once a beginer too.....and I sucked pig time ..... I used to have trouble with Pig and Christmas Song ...... so for those beginers don't give up ..... for you more advanced people that have conquered the DAVE .... try out my stuff .... it will open up new chapters of guitar for you ..... it did for me ...... !!! ENJOY
Cheers

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:34 am

holy shit dude....if you are as good as you come off as...i would really like to hear some of your timmy shit....and dave covers

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 12:00 pm

me too

gravesRR7 · Unread post by **gravesRR7** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 1:09 pm

yeah, cheersDtoT, id like to hear you if you could post an audio.

as for the hardest songs, i'd have to say jimi thing. i just can't get it to sound like dave. i can play most of the others pretty well, but i think that crisp, clan sound that dave gets when playing Warehouse on LISTENER SUPPORTED is near immposible.

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 5:11 pm

canuck_dmb wrote:
jsgksu wrote:
gravedigger wrote:I disagree that BOWA is easy as hell, and Billies and the Stone are probably up there as the hardest Dave songs to play. BOWA takes awhile to get down, especially if you want it to sound as good as Dave.
Alright, its not easy as hell but I think its a lot easier then Billies, Stone, Warehouse and a few others. There is no hard stretches and the muting isnt that hard. I think its fairly easy compared to some his songs, though harder than others too. I just dont understand why the original poster of this subject said he couldnt finish it or satellite all the way. Like BOWA was a real strain or something. Anyways, no big deal, forget it, I just dont think its to hard a song to play IMO.

come on canuck, you can do better than that for a first post

ok, so BOWA is relatively easy, but there is a LOT of motion to the song, as there are in Billies and The Stone. I used to play it with all barre chords when I was starting out, and damn did it hurt by the time it was done, especially the Red Rocks version. I used to play (try to play) BOWA, Two Step and .... I forget the one that comes after that....Watchtower maybe? anyway, yeah Satellite used to be hard one to finish because the hand gets so tired. same goes for Stone and Crash. anyhoo, yeah I'd like to hear some of your stuff, CheersDoT. sounds like you can play.

peace all.

rife33 · Unread post by **rife33** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:03 am

So Right is kinda tough, the timing in the jam in #34 is hard for me, but the hardest Dave song for me is to keep the main riff going in Dreams of Our Fathers.

billywestom · Unread post by **billywestom** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:25 am

I guess I am really lucky to have big hands, because it sounds sorta funny to me hearing everyone talk about how hard Satellite is.

When I think of hard songs, I definitely think of Warehouse, because I can never cease to hit the open B and E strings, I just can't get the muting down right. I think part of it is my guitar; it just doesn't have a great tone.

Everyone keeps talking about Billies and The Stone, Billies and The Stone. The only reason Billies was hard for me was because I was just starting out and my hand couldn't stretch enough for that massive A chord. Plus, I couldn't get the right rythm for the Intro. I would watch Storytellers and wonder, "Why the hell is his hand moving so much, isn't he just hitting the chords once at a time?"

The Stone was the biggest surprise for me. I downloaded the old "Charlie Rose" video and I couldn't believe his hand movement on that song. I literally KNEW I would never be able to play it. But, of course, practice makes perfect, and that is now one of the easiest and definitely the most fun song to play.

To answer the question quickly, I guess Warehouse, Jimi Thing, and Grace Is Gone (I'm working on finger picking) are the hardest for me. I think I have most of the others (well, the ones that I have tried to learn) down pretty well.

Peace Everybody...

so_thirsty · Unread post by **so_thirsty** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:30 am

I feel like stone is pretty elementary compared to BOWA and some others. Stone is played in one portion of the neck so it's not that difficult to master if you work at it.

Der-ak · Unread post by **Der-ak** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:51 am

It seems to me that the hardest song to play would be the one you're working on at the time. It would also depend a great deal on the kind of playing you're used to. If you don't play stuff that has alot of stretching, then billies, 41, satellite and warehouse etc. will all kick your ass. If you've put in the time and effort to get the techniques down... the easier it'll be to play the songs that utilize those same techniques.

Anyhow,... this is my attempt at a first post. HUGE props to the creators for such a great site and all those who make this site what it is. It's also really great to see some other CANADIAN Dave fans out there.

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