Question regarding Gravedigger

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:23 pm

wow i have a crappy microphone. if it's just me then i'll admit it but i think the light palm muting makes it sound a lot more like dave (especially the KFOG performance)

i did the stone and gravedigger, i'm alomst 100% positive about gravedigger but i'll let you guys decide about the stone. on both of them the first time through is without palm muting while the second time is with it.

*sorry about the crappy recodings

http://www.christianguitar.org/forums/s ... ost1259958

go to that link and it's at the bottom of the page in my last post

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:32 pm

now i only think he does this during the beginning of the song so don't come down on me, i'm not saying anyone else is wrong

Humble Monkey · Unread post by **Humble Monkey** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:33 pm

DMBFan63 wrote:Dave doesn't palm mute the stone.. he does indeed rest his hand on the bridge, but that's not muting anything.. i can basicly play it with all the left hand muting, and palm muting sounds like total shit and/or ass, whichever you prefer to say, compared to left hand muting

Left-hand muting just mutes, that's it, no variations in sound. With a good right-handed, rythmic palm-mute you can get variations from muffled, semi-muted, bassy, & some other sounds that I don't have adjectives for.

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:36 pm

Humble Monkey wrote:
DMBFan63 wrote:Dave doesn't palm mute the stone.. he does indeed rest his hand on the bridge, but that's not muting anything.. i can basicly play it with all the left hand muting, and palm muting sounds like total shit and/or ass, whichever you prefer to say, compared to left hand muting
Left-hand muting just mutes, that's it, no variations in sound. With a good right-handed, rythmic palm-mute you can get variations from muffled, semi-muted, bassy, & some other sounds that I don't have adjectives for.

that's exactly what i'm saying

Humble Monkey · Unread post by **Humble Monkey** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:40 pm

elijah77jc wrote:now i only think he does this during the beginning of the song so don't come down on me, i'm not saying anyone else is wrong

There's gotta be palm-muting in the beginning of Gravedigger...I agree w/ you.

DT · Unread post by DT » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:46 pm

yea, not like electric guitar palm muting where you almost drone it out, but a light brush with the palm while you are strumming the opening chords.... either that or dave has a magic guitar setup.

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:51 pm

Humble Monkey wrote:
elijah77jc wrote:now i only think he does this during the beginning of the song so don't come down on me, i'm not saying anyone else is wrong
There's gotta be palm-muting in the beginning of Gravedigger...I agree w/ you.

I will have to listen for it, but I know there isn't any in the Stone

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:01 pm

BigSpeen3436 wrote:
Humble Monkey wrote:
elijah77jc wrote:now i only think he does this during the beginning of the song so don't come down on me, i'm not saying anyone else is wrong
There's gotta be palm-muting in the beginning of Gravedigger...I agree w/ you.
I will have to listen for it, but I know there isn't any in the Stone

well...did you listen?

unccharlotte07 · Unread post by **unccharlotte07** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:12 pm

I'm with elijah on this one, if you listen on listener supported you can definitely tell that he palm mutes it.

trebor · Unread post by **trebor** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:49 am

he definietly palm mutes grave digger.... it hink he does in alomost every song, jsut not the whole song... even satellite in lallc you can hear he does ion some verses...

taylordb · Unread post by **taylordb** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:07 am

IMHO, Dave does/has used palm muting on Gravedigger, as well as Stone (in some performances) and Satelite (in some performances). Your right hand does not have to be stationary to palm mute. As others have said, its just a light contact as you come down on the string with the pick. Its not muting out the string totally, just deadening the tone a little.

If Dave is doing that sound/tone with a left hand mute...I would love to see how to do this. Maybe this is the perfect topic for the 1st installation in the DMB Guitar Classes Forum!!!!!!!

unccharlotte07 · Unread post by **unccharlotte07** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:23 am

I'm still having difficulty doing this. I guess I just gotta practice practice practice! I guess I'm bound to get that sound eventually.

patrickw25 · Unread post by **patrickw25** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:36 am

I have to agree that Dave definately does palm mute on occasion. I've heard him do it at the very beginning of Crush on the Bm chord, also he sometimes slightly palm mutes the very begginning of the Tripping Billies intro. And on acoustic versions of Gravedigger and yes it does sound like he palm mutes the Stone sometimes I've even heard him use it on Typical Situation. Just my 2 cents.

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:16 am

hey some people agree with me

for those of you who still disagree, download the stone from the KFOG radio performance and just llisten to the first note he plays and try to recreate the sound, it just won't sound the same if you just pick it but if you palm mute it very lightly it will sound so much more like it.

DustyDave · Unread post by **DustyDave** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:17 am

I have to agree with the palm muting here , atleast when i palm mute , i think it sounds so much closer to the " Dave " sound , than without the palm mute , on certain songs so to say

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