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Unread post by Thomas » Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:32 pm

what scales does dave like to use?

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Unread post by jsgksu » Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:53 pm

Uh, he doesnt really solo or play lead much, Im not totally educated in this department but I dont think he really plays scales to much, anyone?
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Unread post by Thomas » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:04 pm

well for songs like "lie in our graves", "ants marching", "satellite".
surely he's using them for that.
i'm not well educated in this department either and i'm hoping to learn from it.

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Unread post by Sciaracastro » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:10 pm

elijah77jc wrote:well for songs like "lie in our graves", "ants marching", "satellite".
surely he's using them for that.
i'm not well educated in this department either and i'm hoping to learn from it.
For Satellite he's only using fifths 8)

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Unread post by w0odman » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:00 am

the little riff in lie in our graves is from the Bm pentatonic
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Unread post by Lil M.Carson » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:46 am

Sciaracastro wrote:
elijah77jc wrote:well for songs like "lie in our graves", "ants marching", "satellite".
surely he's using them for that.
i'm not well educated in this department either and i'm hoping to learn from it.
For Satellite he's only using fifths 8)
You sound like you know what you're talking about. Wanna give me lessons :P J/K, I'm in Naples too.

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Unread post by Sciaracastro » Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:24 am

Lil M.Carson wrote: You sound like you know what you're talking about. Wanna give me lessons :P J/K, I'm in Naples too.
Not very well...I know only a few scales...Anyway, ayou're from Naples?
Where exactily?

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Unread post by MWR » Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:36 am

w0odman wrote:the little riff in lie in our graves is from the Bm pentatonic
It's based around d major actually... this will probably start another b minor/ d major debate. Even though I'm right.

First off, people should know that scales are the building blocks of all melody and harmony. If you hear a song it's going to be based around a scale. They are not magical little patterns used exclusively for soloing.

Dave uses mainly major/minor scales to create his melody's. On song's like Last Stop and Minarets there's a obvious middle eastern melody to it. I'm not sure exactly what scale hes using but the harmonic minor is the most popular "eastern" sounding scale. For the most part Daves use of harmony and melody is pretty simple. He hardly ever uses extended chords (maj7,min7,dom7, etc.). So basically major/minor. Shows you how much can be made from the same scale.

If you really want to know about it then your gonna have to study it just like learning any other language.

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Unread post by adrianosr » Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:20 am

MWR is right. The little riffs he pulls out bettwen chords are mostly from the natural major or minor scales, depending on the key of the song.
As far as harmony goes, the coolest thing dave uses is a lot of inversions of the chords (i.e. 'alternate fingering'). The 'dave chords' as people like to call them are usually just regular major/minor chords with the notes (I,III,V) inverted! And it sounds great!

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Unread post by Lil M.Carson » Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:29 am

Sciaracastro wrote:
Lil M.Carson wrote: You sound like you know what you're talking about. Wanna give me lessons :P J/K, I'm in Naples too.
Not very well...I know only a few scales...Anyway, ayou're from Naples?
Where exactily?
I'm not "from" Naples, I just got here last October. I'm in Lago Patria...you?

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Unread post by ericwormann » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:39 am

MWR wrote:this will probably start another b minor/ d major debate. Even though I'm right.
haha that's great.

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Unread post by Locarius » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:52 am

Just learn the major scale with all 7 modes and you will be fine. :D

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Unread post by Sciaracastro » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:30 am

Lil M.Carson wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Lil M.Carson wrote: You sound like you know what you're talking about. Wanna give me lessons :P J/K, I'm in Naples too.
Not very well...I know only a few scales...Anyway, ayou're from Naples?
Where exactily?
I'm not "from" Naples, I just got here last October. I'm in Lago Patria...you?
I'm in Vomero...a little bit far... :(

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