Dave's Guitars

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Unread post by matttherevelator41 » Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:15 am

Why does Dave choose to use certain guitars at different times? Like why is he now using the DM3MD for the D & F shows as well as he did for the D & T tour while he used his 914 for touring with the band lately? Does the DM3MD have a more intimate sound that would better suit a D & T show or is it all just personal preference?

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Unread post by PlayLikeDave » Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:43 pm

matttherevelator41 wrote:Why does Dave choose to use certain guitars at different times? Like why is he now using the DM3MD for the D & F shows as well as he did for the D & T tour while he used his 914 for touring with the band lately? Does the DM3MD have a more intimate sound that would better suit a D & T show or is it all just personal preference?
You probably could do a search of the boards and get a lot of these answers, but

Taylors are said to have a stronger punch that can be voiced over/thru the band. So when Dave plays with DMB, he usually uses the 914 for the majority of the songs (w65, 714, modulus and the Jerry Jones make some appearances).

It is said that Martins are better acoustic guitars...this I am not inclined to believe, but I have never played Dave's DM3MD. Since it is just D&T on acoustics, then the better acoustic would be useful. The DM3MD probably has a very warm, rich natural tone that isn't incredibly bright, but focuses more on lows.

Why the DM3MD for the D&F tour? I think it is for the fact Timmy and Trey were the only important guitar parts on tour. There was the exception of like SOL, SDL, and Baby, but other than that, I couldn't hear a damn chord that Dave strummed, plucked, or somehow sounded.

So that is all I have to say about that.

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Unread post by Ranting Thespian » Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:30 pm

Different guitars make didfferent sounds, that's it.

Martins give a more rythmic bassy sound, so they are good alone, or solo acoustic stuff. Taylors focus on the higher tones, and is much sharper, so it's good for with a big band, as well as their new pickup also makes it stand out more with a large group. Also, dave changed for a martin 12 string to a taylor 12 string because dave said the taylor 12 had less of a strummy strum sound that most 12 strings have. Then he liked this other taylor he found in a store, and keeps that tuned differently, I believe raised b. Then he stopped using his HD-28 martin, because he had the dm3md made just for him to what he liked most. I also bet that Dave uses his dm3md in the studio more than the taylor, because he doesn't need to stick out as much, since the producing does that, and also imo that a dreadnaught is much more comfortable ot sit with. I a;lso bet since Dave used the dm3md more while making some devil (you can see him only using that standard coustic in the pictures of the sessions, so he might have just favored it for the songs there.) Also, why he gave up playing the Chet Atkins SST, I have no clue, since it sounded great live.
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Unread post by infoghost » Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:07 am

I am 90% sure he uses the DM3MD exclusively in the studio, with the exception of electric parts, of course. I read somewhere where his said his DM3MD has the best sound of all his guitars, so he records with it.

I of course could be completely wrong about this.

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Unread post by neverkilladream » Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:49 am

Correct, and it's hard to cut through the bright solid band mix at live shows, so he had to get a guitar that the could mix through the instruments, martins are too low end oriented for a band mix, although, I AM a MARTIN fanatic... I have determined to buy a taylor, cause the Look so nice. lol
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Unread post by Speenis » Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:41 pm

yes they do look nice
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Unread post by Steve-O » Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:48 pm

Not all Taylors are bright and not all Martins are bassy. Daves's DM3MD cuts through just fine on Listener Supported. Taylors aren't the guitars to use unless youre trying to cut thru a band? Martins arent the guitars to use while playing with a band? Give me a break. Im sick of hearing this over and over agian. Its not true.

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Unread post by CWMCALL » Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:39 pm

Ranting Thespian wrote: Martins give a more rythmic bassy sound, so they are good alone, or solo acoustic stuff. Taylors focus on the higher tones, and is much sharper, so it's good for with a big band, as well as their new pickup also makes it stand out more with a large group..
I have heard this theory many times and I don't dobt that there is some truth to it...but it also makes wonder why Dave always plays his Taylors at solo shows like Farm Aid??????

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Unread post by PlayLikeDave » Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:16 pm

CWMCALL wrote:
Ranting Thespian wrote: Martins give a more rythmic bassy sound, so they are good alone, or solo acoustic stuff. Taylors focus on the higher tones, and is much sharper, so it's good for with a big band, as well as their new pickup also makes it stand out more with a large group..
I have heard this theory many times and I don't dobt that there is some truth to it...but it also makes wonder why Dave always plays his Taylors at solo shows like Farm Aid??????
I have wondered this too. I think it is due to the fact that it is a very bright guitar, and he can beat the hell out of it if he wants. The Martin is better I think for the bassy sound you might want for a secluded, D&T style show, and the Taylor that he has is probably set up for louder venues (Farm Aid isn't as intimate as a Cafe/House of Blues type show)

That is my two cents,

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Unread post by Ranting Thespian » Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:49 am

When solo, both guitars work and do the job.

Also, YES, not all martins are rythmic and bassy, and not all taylors are bright. Majority, though, it's true.

Yes, you can hear dave's martin on LS, but if you listen to Central Park, the taylor rips through the band, unlike the martin. Also, LS and Central Park are both mixed after the show as well, so it might be harder live (yes, you mix it differently live than recording, because you are getting two different goals there. One to project out over tons of people and get less feedback, and then speakers is just to play it direct out of 1 speaker in close quaters, and no worry about feedback) to get it just right, but who knows for that, except the soundmen.


Also, for live solo, dave could just want to play one guitar one day, and anohter for another day. Maybe he only brought one of them with him. There are tons of reasons for solo.

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Unread post by yknSTONE » Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:11 am

I know why Dave uses certain guitars for certain events.
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Unread post by jsgksu » Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:22 am

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