Rapunzel help

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Rapunzel help

Unread post by TSilk » Mon May 14, 2007 7:54 pm

On the part where it goes:
"I'll think the world of you..."

E:----------------
B:----------------
G:-7----7-----7---
D:-x---------(5)--
A:-5----x-----x---
E:------6----/8---
(3)

I can not for the life of me figure out the strumming pattern or when to change chords and I feel like a tard because I'm sure it's very easy, I have the rest of the song down except for this part. I even tried listening to the D&T Rapunzel but I still can't hear the changes. Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon May 14, 2007 8:31 pm

1 2 3 change 2 3 change 2 3

It's in 3/4
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Unread post by taparoo » Mon May 14, 2007 8:31 pm

You're probably making it way harder than it really is. It's very simple. You can hear Carter accent where you need to change most of the time. That part is in 6/8, so just count 6 beats (eighth notes) per chord.

1 2 3 4 5 6 (change), 1 2 3 4 5 6 (change), etc.

You can hear the 1 and 4 accented by Carter.

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon May 14, 2007 8:48 pm

i have always sucked at distinguishing meters. i can recognize the beats and accents etc, but distinguishing it from 3/4 and 6/8 just doesn't seem to work for me :lol: remind me again (for like the 20th time in my life) what i'm missing?

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Unread post by jsgksu » Mon May 14, 2007 8:50 pm

Try fretting the frowny face with your middle finger, might make it a little easier.
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Unread post by taparoo » Mon May 14, 2007 9:04 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:i have always sucked at distinguishing meters. i can recognize the beats and accents etc, but distinguishing it from 3/4 and 6/8 just doesn't seem to work for me :lol: remind me again (for like the 20th time in my life) what i'm missing?

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You could count it in 3/4, but you can hear how 6/8 just fits better. It just feels better. In 6/8 you're counting 1 2 3 4 5 6, emphasizing the 1 and 4 in this case (1 2 3 4 5 6, might help you to think of it like that). You can think of the counting as being in 2/4 with each downbeat being an eighth note triplet (1 uh let 2 uh let), that'll give you the same feel as 6/8. Does your brain hurt yet? :lol:

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon May 14, 2007 9:10 pm

that actually works. thanks taparoo. what's your real name by the way?
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Unread post by taparoo » Mon May 14, 2007 9:14 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:that actually works. thanks taparoo. what's your real name by the way?
no problem. My name's Travis.

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Unread post by taparoo » Mon May 14, 2007 9:18 pm

Here's some audio of me playing the chorus, first exaggerating the counting (1 2 3 4 5 6 etc.), then the way Dave would play it. Hope this helps. (just click on lo or hifi to play it, you don't have to dl the mp3)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemus ... dID=583699

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon May 14, 2007 9:21 pm

taparoo wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:that actually works. thanks taparoo. what's your real name by the way?
no problem. My name's Travis.
Cool. I always feel weird addressing people online by their screennames.
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Unread post by TSilk » Mon May 14, 2007 9:32 pm

thanks for all of the pointers guys, I was making a mountain out of a mole hill

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Unread post by Evan » Thu May 17, 2007 12:56 pm

Taparoo I just listened to your soundclick page, that little solo over Bartender is pretty cool. Its nice and simple and just really works, I really liked it.

Under your LIOG recording it says recorded with logitech mic and Audacity. Is Audacity a program cuz I've been looking for a decent program to just record some songs with and mess around a bit and I have no clue which ones are good. Can you help me out?

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Unread post by MakoMako » Thu May 17, 2007 2:40 pm

somedevil1387 wrote:Taparoo I just listened to your soundclick page, that little solo over Bartender is pretty cool. Its nice and simple and just really works, I really liked it.

Under your LIOG recording it says recorded with logitech mic and Audacity. Is Audacity a program cuz I've been looking for a decent program to just record some songs with and mess around a bit and I have no clue which ones are good. Can you help me out?

Thanks.
This is about the only thing in this topic I could actually help with. :lol:

Audacity is a recording software. Its completely free and its fairly decent considering. Some bigger name ones are Cakewalk SONAR and Cool Edit Pro (Adobe Audition now if I recall). But you've got to normally shell out some money for those.
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Unread post by Evan » Thu May 17, 2007 2:48 pm

thanks man, appreciate it.
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