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coyoteguy · Unread post by **coyoteguy** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:26 am

Ok, what does this stand for, if anything? I used to have the Folsom Field cd but it was stolen, anyway, I was listening to this song a few minutes ago on Corner of Grey Street and damn! this song is awesome!

smedley · Unread post by **smedley** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:32 am

John the Revelator, an old cover song that they used to play (i forget who it's by) and they changed the lyrics i believe.

coyoteguy · Unread post by **coyoteguy** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:52 am

cool thanks

guitardmb · Unread post by **guitardmb** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:02 am

This is strange because there is a JTR and a John The Revalator on this site. The tabs are pretty much the same but JTR has more to it i think. Also the lyrics are mildly different. JTR seems to be missing the "whose that writing part". They are definatly versions of the same song but what is up with dave doing two completely different covers of it?

I know Phil Keaggy did a version of it. I dont think he wrote it though. On the Crimson and Blue album it said arranged by Phil Keaggy and L Nichols. Then on other songs it says written by Phil Keaggy. So I dont think he wrote it. He must have just wrote new music to the lyrics.

sk8r · Unread post by **sk8r** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:04 am

brock will explian at some point

Nitro1515 · Unread post by **Nitro1515** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:17 am

The guitar parts and lyrics are completely Dave's own work, except for the line "whose that writing its John the Revelator" from an old folk or blues song, so that is why John The Revelator is a cover. JTR on the other hand is not a cover since that line is not in it.

guitardmb · Unread post by **guitardmb** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:31 am

I googled it and found that the original lyrics to that song were written by a Blind Willie Johnson. But like nitro said the only similar lyrics are the whose that writing.

Still seems strange why he would do that but whatever.

czech · Unread post by **czech** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:05 pm

guitardmb wrote:I googled it and found that the original lyrics to that song were written by a Blind Willie Johnson. But like nitro said the only similar lyrics are the whose that writing.

Still seems strange why he would do that but whatever.

ya, there's more lyrics than jsut the chorus in common.

and this song has been covered by soooo damn many people its crazy.

Mikey · Unread post by **Mikey** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:11 pm

I know Dave and Tim played it in like 99 and it was then called John The Revalator. I think that was a true cover. JTR has the jam at the end and stuff, so its like DMBs revised version of the song. I think.

guitardmb · Unread post by **guitardmb** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:32 pm

checkii wrote:
guitardmb wrote:I googled it and found that the original lyrics to that song were written by a Blind Willie Johnson. But like nitro said the only similar lyrics are the whose that writing.

Still seems strange why he would do that but whatever.
ya, there's more lyrics than jsut the chorus in common.

and this song has been covered by soooo damn many people its crazy.

Ok, i didnt look over it very hard.

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:12 pm

Nitro1515 wrote:The guitar parts and lyrics are completely Dave's own work, except for the line "whose that writing its John the Revelator" from an old folk or blues song, so that is why John The Revelator is a cover. JTR on the other hand is not a cover since that line is not in it.

the original song is weird, its a gospell song somewhat, then aparently some band named ollabelle covered it, or maybe its just the original version ive got, but i had the old original transfered from vinyl. original song was cool too.

guitardmb · Unread post by **guitardmb** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:03 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:
Nitro1515 wrote:The guitar parts and lyrics are completely Dave's own work, except for the line "whose that writing its John the Revelator" from an old folk or blues song, so that is why John The Revelator is a cover. JTR on the other hand is not a cover since that line is not in it.
the original song is weird, its a gospell song somewhat, then aparently some band named ollabelle covered it, or maybe its just the original version ive got, but i had the old original transfered from vinyl. original song was cool too.

Phil Keaggy version is awesome!

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:06 pm

guitardmb wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
Nitro1515 wrote:The guitar parts and lyrics are completely Dave's own work, except for the line "whose that writing its John the Revelator" from an old folk or blues song, so that is why John The Revelator is a cover. JTR on the other hand is not a cover since that line is not in it.
the original song is weird, its a gospell song somewhat, then aparently some band named ollabelle covered it, or maybe its just the original version ive got, but i had the old original transfered from vinyl. original song was cool too.
Phil Keaggy version is awesome!

its prolly that one, i have a lot of mis labeled stuff

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:23 am

checkii wrote:
guitardmb wrote:I googled it and found that the original lyrics to that song were written by a Blind Willie Johnson. But like nitro said the only similar lyrics are the whose that writing.

Still seems strange why he would do that but whatever.
ya, there's more lyrics than jsut the chorus in common.

and this song has been covered by soooo damn many people its crazy.

yea, i was always under the impression it was a traditional song, just passed down time and again.

Dutch · Unread post by **Dutch** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:07 am

http://www.ibiblio.org/jimmy/folkden/ph ... php?mid=32

Link has history of song/original lyrics and an mp3 of someone playing the original version.

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